Nice and childish ...No idea. He should have called him a geebag though.
Well put
Can you really continue a debate when thats a reply???
your first two words say more about you then the last two!! Your posting on a topic that you dont understand.
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higgins, Shels's fans group get funded by shels fc. FACT.
The flare display.... makes no difference were it happened. A flare lit is a flare lit.
Shels players and officials acted like thugs both back in May, and last October in dalymount, yet nothing, We have this NLSA shower issuing statements yet they know none of the facts, yet evidence submitted by Frodo Fenlon, who was breaching a suspension gets not one bit of notice.
25th March 2005. You've played Rovers more than once this season.Originally Posted by higgins
Are you saying what Bohs done that night was the same as what Shels done against Rovers last week?
Your nuts if you are.........
An arranged flare display is an arranged flare display. It's either punishable or not.
As we have continually stated the rules have to be applied consistantly and evenly to all. Otherwise, what's the point?
Some say the glass is half empty, some say the glass is half full, I say, are you going to drink that?
Revised statement issued:
Please note correction – match referred to in first paragraph is Bohemians v Shelbourne, not v Shamrock Rovers as was previously issued.
Media Statement – eircom League Board of Control decisions arising from the Investigations Committee Report
The eircom League Board of Control at its meeting of last night, September 13th after having considered the report of the Investigations Committee, unanimously decided that Bohemian FC be fined €3,000 for the protest carried out by Bohemians supporters; the use of flares by its supporters; the lack of sufficient stewarding and the failure of the club to respond in a responsible manner to these events and circumstances during the Bohemians v Shelbourne Premier Division fixture on May 27th last. It was also decided that Bohemian FC be warned as to its future conduct.
The eircom League Board of Control also unanimously decided that Shamrock Rovers FC be fined €1,000 for the encroachment of its supporters onto the playing area at the end of the Premier Division Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians fixture on June 3rd last. It further unanimously decided that Shamrock Rovers FC be fined €1,000 for the display of two offensive banners by its supporters and the encroachment of its supporters onto the playing area at the end of the Premier Division Shelbourne v Shamrock Rovers fixture on June 17th last. It was also decided that Shamrock Rovers FC be warned as to its future conduct.
The Board unanimously decided to adopt and implement in full the four key recommendations contained within the report.
ENDS
Andy Needham
Media & Public Relations Officer
eircom League
80 Merrion Square
Who is Oily? Did the eL Committee link this to Ollie?
I can't see how this is evidence & not aware of any rule banning banners at AWAY games.
The bohs "display" was done on the playing surface, right beisde the opposition goalkeeper!!!
Ollie Byrne contently has meetings with groups of fans who would be considered BD, he has repeated asked, and told fans not to use flares in the grounds any longer, also BD raise funds independently by bucket collections and by donations by BD themselves, FACT!
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Sitting pretty!!!
The Bohs display did not encroach onto the field of play FACT!
Ollie, Shels and Fenlon got fined over the drogheda thing because of the media coverage it received. No other reason. The league ahd to act. It wasnt Fenlons first time in trouble this season. He was suspended from the technical area for the Bohs v Shels game on the 27th of may, so how could he possibly have been abused in the technical area?
He is either a liar or he didnt serve his ban.
Thats why I said playing surface you prat, they were to the left of the goal as you look at it, at the Shed End, this is the playing surface. FACT!
Sitting pretty!!!
For the duration of the game, and I'm sorry but you're starting to sound obsessed again btid...
Sitting pretty!!!
the use of flares by its supporters; the lack of sufficient stewarding and the failure of the club to respond in a responsible manner to these events and circumstances during the Bohemians v Shelbourne Premier Division fixture on May 27th last.
You did not get the fine for the use of flares alone,,
Why you are still trying to compare this woth other events is annoying me. Accept what was done on the night was over stepping the mark. The fine that was issued may be harsh but the event was not the ordinary show of flares. Going onto the playing surface with a flare is a serious matter (I'll count the area around the gaol as the playing surface
And the board of Shelbourne do not fund flares for displays against opposition players and fans. Not saying Bohs did either but dont come along with your funded by the board rubbish to deflect attention from your own problems.
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Fines for failing to take a good look at oneselfah no - Shels won't get fined for the flares against Rovers.
It happened in Dalymount - so Bohs will be fined again.
Fined for incidents in games you're not even playing in!
What next - fines for looking at Fenlon in an offensive manner?
So the banner implied that somebody called "Oily" was a hooligan, and they automatically assumed that this was "pre planned and orchestrated to cause the maximum offence to Oliver Byrne"
Can the BD help us out here please? Next game put up some unbelievably crude and offensive banner about Des Casey's mother and wait and see what happens. In the (HIGHLY unlikely) event that there's a fine, I'm sure every other club will be happy to see that there's no Shels bias and chip in.
Seriously though, I think this should be the catalyst for all supporters groups to make an effort to display offensive banners. If there's any lawyers reading this it might be a good idea to advise on the best way to phrase any insulting comments so that there can't be any legal problems...
SIGNATURESCOPE
and next to a FIFA Listed Assistant Referee - who quite casualy strolls up into the back of the net - literally yards from where one of the flares is, and nonchalantly checks the goal net, walks away to take up his position on the touchline and goes about his business.
The goalkeeper and he didn't seem worried at all about the presence of a flare(s) - if the goalkeeper or the Assistant Referee had felt that it posed a danger to anyone or was anywhere near the pitch - then the referee would have been called over and had them removed from the vicinity of the playing area.
The evidence - on film - that they didn't speaks volumes imo.
Kom Igen, FCK...
So basically in any ground where you stand on grass you are on the playing surface?
eircom League Suspensions effective 18th May
Pat Fenlon (Manager, Shelbourne) suspended for TWO (2) competitive matches, fined EUR200 and warned as to his future conduct. For this two match suspension, Mr Fenlon is to remain at least 50 metres away from the dressing room, technical area and pitch for at least two hours before the matches as well as during and after the matches.
Some say the glass is half empty, some say the glass is half full, I say, are you going to drink that?
So if that happened every week at grounds up and down the country you would have no problem with it???
Is that what you think the EL are looking for ...
YES in fact they should have donated 3,000 towards your next hate campaign towards ex players.. That will have the crowds flocking to Dalymount and other grounds all over the country. I'm saddened by the fact none of you see that this was wrong
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It appears that the FAI are tired of trying to kill the domestic by pretending it doesn't exist.
Their new approach appears to drive out the remaining support with findings such as that produced by this committee.
It appears that numerous issues were not investigated by the Committee. Some had their evidence accepted without question, others had their dismissed without a chance to substantiate it.
Fines for banners- are we going to have stewards checking the wording of all flags prior to entry into a game from now on. Who decides that is offensive or not? As WWS says, fan culture is a central part of the game. We are the game.
Given that the Gardai refused to remove the Pi$$A=Juda$ from Tolka a few years back as it wasn't offensive are there going be comprehensive guidelines on this.
Perhaps my QUBSC flag will be banned as it featured a crown which might remind home fans of Ireland's past as a colony.
I personally believe that flares and smoke canisters can be used safely. Bohs provide sandbuckets for the safe extinguishing of flares etc and this is an innovative yet simple solution to the safety issues. Perhaps we'll have a edict from the FAI on the use of lighters next........
Also Ollie publically claimed to have been at a league management meeting where Rovers were discussed. The management committee explicitly note that no such incident occurred. This is arguably the most offensive of all "allegations" mentioned since it brings the league management committee into disrepute, yet again Ollie gets off scot free.
Rovers fans and others automatically assumed and stated that Ollie was at that particular meeting.
Ollie asked this Investigation Cmtee to confirm and state publicly that he was not at that meeting. They did so in their report published last night.
3. The Committee noted Oliver Byrnes evidence that allegations were made that he attended a management meeting of the League prior to the match and had requested the League at this meeting to take action against Shamrock Rovers in relation to the clubs examinership. League Representatives are in a position to refute any allegation that Mr. Oliver Byrne was at this management meeting and the Committee have noted this.
two hours before the matches as well as during and after the matches.
As was already pointed out !!
There is no time limit on how long he should be away from the pitch after the game. Thats why the new bans are worded differently........
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A banner with judas and a couple of flares? A banner calling a known thug a thug? Lock up your kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bloody hell, you would swear the officials of Bohs and Rovers were known to attack rival fans, directors etc or be involved in criminal activities. Oh wait...
This is football, not polo. Bohs and Rovers have no case to answer in relation to the Shelbourne games.
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