Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 2 of 15 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 293

Thread: Heimir Hallgrímsson

  1. #21
    Reserves
    Joined
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    321
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    160
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    159
    Thanked in
    107 Posts
    Here's an indepth article by the Athletic, for anyone who has a subscription:

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/290...abuse-scandal/

  2. #22
    First Team The Fly's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    2,393
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    389
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,087
    Thanked in
    588 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Exgrad View Post
    Here's an indepth article by the Athletic, for anyone who has a subscription:

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/290...abuse-scandal/
    Use this to read it:

    https://archive.ph/e5zyD

  3. Thanks From:


  4. #23
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    3,419
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    147
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,255
    Thanked in
    885 Posts
    The press conference was a tough enough watch at times. But the fairly shambolic process that led to this point with Canham hiding from proper questioning for months meant that was always going to be the case. HH might be wondering what he has walked himself into here between the manager saga and the historic allegations that have just come out, in addition to Duff's comments yesterday.

    My initial impression is that I like the guy. But I wonder if he's been a bit naive coming in without agreeing at least a framework of a backroom team. O'Shea will undoubtedly be there but he's worse than a man down, I suppose he can hand out the training bibs or something. Coleman's comments that the existing staff are good should surely be taken with a pinch of salt by HH, Coleman was hardly going to throw them all under a bus in his first conversation with a guy he doesn't know.

    I hope he has a few names in mind that he was keeping to himself today because nearly anyone who has been involved in the senior team coaching setup for the last four years should be run out of the place as far as I'm concerned.

    Then there was all the awkward stuff about timelines. I think it's clearer than ever that HH wasn't the man in April, Canham's fudged and pre-heated answers didn't really hold water there. Dervan or whoever it was trying to move the discussion on once someone tried to tie him down on it. Poor stuff. They were obviously ready for the Greenwood question as well, the answer was basically pinning it on the Jamaican FA for putting HH in an awkward spot at the time. Will be interesting to see if that's the end of it. Couldn't have come at a worse time really given the allegations from the weekend there.

    As for the Sky Sports reporter who used his prime question slot to ask whether England would win the Euros or not, well there are no words really. The biggest clown in the room, and that takes some doing in some of that company. Even the other journos were laughing at him.

  5. Thanks From:


  6. #24
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    2,406
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    641
    Thanked in
    505 Posts


    McDonnell makes a good point about the O'Shea bit. If O'Shea hasn't agreed to come on board yet why go public that you've asked him. Plus as he said if the FAI wants people to believe the timeline you'd assume some staff would have been announced today.

    Not a fan of O'Shea staying on. Think his presence will cause some issues in the media with the way some have been angling for him to get the job. If HH doesn't have a positive start in September they'll have the knives out if they're already not out before then.

  7. #25
    International Prospect Razors left peg's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Just Another Emigrant
    Posts
    5,555
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,427
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,415
    Thanked in
    920 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The press conference was a tough enough watch at times. But the fairly shambolic process that led to this point with Canham hiding from proper questioning for months meant that was always going to be the case. HH might be wondering what he has walked himself into here between the manager saga and the historic allegations that have just come out, in addition to Duff's comments yesterday.

    My initial impression is that I like the guy. But I wonder if he's been a bit naive coming in without agreeing at least a framework of a backroom team. O'Shea will undoubtedly be there but he's worse than a man down, I suppose he can hand out the training bibs or something. Coleman's comments that the existing staff are good should surely be taken with a pinch of salt by HH, Coleman was hardly going to throw them all under a bus in his first conversation with a guy he doesn't know.

    I hope he has a few names in mind that he was keeping to himself today because nearly anyone who has been involved in the senior team coaching setup for the last four years should be run out of the place as far as I'm concerned.

    Then there was all the awkward stuff about timelines. I think it's clearer than ever that HH wasn't the man in April, Canham's fudged and pre-heated answers didn't really hold water there. Dervan or whoever it was trying to move the discussion on once someone tried to tie him down on it. Poor stuff. They were obviously ready for the Greenwood question as well, the answer was basically pinning it on the Jamaican FA for putting HH in an awkward spot at the time. Will be interesting to see if that's the end of it. Couldn't have come at a worse time really given the allegations from the weekend there.

    As for the Sky Sports reporter who used his prime question slot to ask whether England would win the Euros or not, well there are no words really. The biggest clown in the room, and that takes some doing in some of that company. Even the other journos were laughing at him.
    A lot of the better Journos like Dan Mc would still be in Germany. I thought that press conference was shameful. Ridiculous questions by bad reporters. Asking Hallgrimsson (I hope my phone learns that predictive text soon) about Damien Duffs comments etc. The whole tone was negative. There were no questions about his style of play, what he knows about the likes of Ferguson or any other young players etc. What will his preparation be like over next few weeks, will he be going to preseason games or watching videos, further expand on his plans to be involved with youth structures... so much actual relevant stuff to talk about
    Its really not that complicated!!!

  8. #26
    Capped Player
    Joined
    May 2004
    Posts
    18,737
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    7,698
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4,812
    Thanked in
    2,745 Posts
    It's almost like they don't want to hurt O'Shea's feelings. HH's English isn't as good as I expected it to be.

    Canham is a slippery xxxx
    Last edited by Stuttgart88; 11/07/2024 at 2:39 PM.

  9. #27
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    2,406
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    641
    Thanked in
    505 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    A lot of the better Journos like Dan Mc would still be in Germany. I thought that press conference was shameful. Ridiculous questions by bad reporters. Asking Hallgrimsson (I hope my phone learns that predictive text soon) about Damien Duffs comments etc. The whole tone was negative. There were no questions about his style of play, what he knows about the likes of Ferguson or any other young players etc. What will his preparation be like over next few weeks, will he be going to preseason games or watching videos, further expand on his plans to be involved with youth structures... so much actual relevant stuff to talk about
    He touches on some of it here in an interview with Virgin Media.


  10. Thanks From:


  11. #28
    International Prospect Razors left peg's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Just Another Emigrant
    Posts
    5,555
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,427
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,415
    Thanked in
    920 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    He touches on some of it here in an interview with Virgin Media.

    Much better, proper questioning
    Its really not that complicated!!!

  12. #29
    Seasoned Pro Acornvilla's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    3,913
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    673
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    904
    Thanked in
    575 Posts
    When Duff was brought up, I thought at least someone to god would mention they're playing in Europe tonight and ask if he was going.

    It was an extremely poor press conference mostly consisting of pre written statements read out slowly. For HH's part he probably answered what he was asked about as well as he could be expected.
    Last edited by Acornvilla; 11/07/2024 at 3:13 PM.

  13. #30
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    2,406
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    641
    Thanked in
    505 Posts
    They have the full interview on their YouTube channel, it's 8 minutes long.

    https://youtu.be/8Lop6LoCoH8?si=TlSzVxIj6utOiU3-

  14. Thanks From:


  15. #31
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    3,419
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    147
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,255
    Thanked in
    885 Posts
    Once again I liked the answers too. He gets international football for a team like Ireland - it's not about how much time you have the ball for, it's about what you do with it when you have it. Play the percentages and if you get a chance to have a go at goal, take it on. That doesn't necessarily have to mean old style hoofball either, you can do it by bringing the ball forward quickly and with intent.

    I remember Kenny in an early press conference almost laughing at the idea that we might play counter attacking football, he just couldn't see any way other than his own. Safe to say this lad won't be taking the media back to his office to show them clips from Man City games as though they have any relevance to the Ireland team.

  16. #32
    First Team
    Joined
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    2,406
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    641
    Thanked in
    505 Posts
    Interesting comments about O'Shea and seeing how Hallgrimsson eventually became manager of Iceland shouldn't be too surprised. Said it's his belief that whoever the board thinks will takeover in the future should be with the team prior to that.

  17. #33
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    3,419
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    147
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,255
    Thanked in
    885 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Interesting comments about O'Shea and seeing how Hallgrimsson eventually became manager of Iceland shouldn't be too surprised. Said it's his belief that whoever the board thinks will takeover in the future should be with the team prior to that.
    Yes, that leaves me wishing Mr Hallgrimsson a successful and very long tenure in charge of the team...

  18. Thanks From:


  19. #34
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    3,419
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    147
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,255
    Thanked in
    885 Posts
    Hopefully Heidir was tuned in to the Derry City game this evening to get a sense of where the quality of one of the top domestic sides sits in the context of the senior national team. Maybe he's at Tolka instead...

    Meanwhile, a little bit of fallout on the Jamaican side.

    https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/...ting-bad-faith

    Canham would probably have advised him not to predict a date for announcing the replacement manager so confidently.
    Last edited by Eirambler; 11/07/2024 at 6:57 PM.

  20. #35
    Capped Player
    Joined
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    15,310
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,734
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,818
    Thanked in
    1,922 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Can Geysir comment on that?
    No Icelandic player has been charged, as in charged by the law, for any sexual crimes. The most high profile incident was with Gylfi Sig in England, he had online contact with a woman who turned out to be Albanian and under age, attempts were made by her family to blackmail him, he went to the police straight away and turned himself in, it took at least 18 months for the prosecutor to decide there was no case to answer. Obviously he had to answer for his behavior to himself and to his family and of late is still intact.

    On the other stuff, Heimir was asked and gave an explanation (like it or not) about his previous statements on Greenwood. It's very easy to take two lines out of context from that explanation and highlight them in isolation with a megaphone.
    Social media can be Hyde Park corner gone ballistic.
    Last edited by geysir; 11/07/2024 at 9:48 PM.

  21. Thanks From:


  22. #36
    Seasoned Pro Acornvilla's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    3,913
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    673
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    904
    Thanked in
    575 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    No Icelandic player has been charged, as in charged by the law, for any sexual crimes. The most high profile was with Gylfi Sig in England, he had online contact with a woman who turned out to be Albanian and under age, attempts were made to blackmail him and he went to the police straight away and turned himself in, it took at least 18 months for the prosecutor to decide there was no case to answer.

    On the other stuff, Heimar was asked and gave an explanation (like it or not) about his previous statements on Greenwood. It's very easy to take two lines out of context and highlight them in isolation with a megaphone.
    Social media can be Hyde Park corner gone ballistic.
    Maybe this is a stupid question, but would you take him back as Iceland manager now if given the option?

    Thank you for your Icelandic insight, you've been working towards this moment for 20 years, and have arrived when we needed you most

  23. #37
    Seasoned Pro Acornvilla's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    3,913
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    673
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    904
    Thanked in
    575 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    When Duff was brought up, I thought at least someone to god would mention they're playing in Europe tonight and ask if he was going.

    It was an extremely poor press conference mostly consisting of pre written statements read out slowly. For HH's part he probably answered what he was asked about as well as he could be expected.
    He was at Tolka for anyone interested!

    A penny for his thoughts on that. I had spoken of my feelings on the Greenwood thing earlier, and although it's a bit of a messy one, and as stated earlier, not something I'm fond of, I think his explanation is probably as solid as one could hope for and it probably will be left at that. It's not something we need dragging on that's for sure.

    Felt kind of bad for the guy, his first press conference was mostly just people complaining and explaining away bad things, usually now is the moment you get all the good vibes and optimism.

  24. Thanks From:


  25. #38
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    3,419
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    147
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,255
    Thanked in
    885 Posts
    The domestic league isn't in a great place right now being honest. The standard looks well below where it was a few years ago. Combine that with the improvement of quality and depth of the senior squad over the same period and it looks unlikely that Heimir will be capping a domestic based player in a competitive game during his time in charge.

    Not that he shouldn't attend matches and keep an eye out for an individual who might stand out from the pack, also being based in Ireland going to games should help him to keep the grass roots on side as well. But I think tonight will have given him a clear sense that he'll be flying back and over to England for the most part to watch prospective players in action.

  26. #39
    Capped Player
    Joined
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    15,310
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,734
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,818
    Thanked in
    1,922 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    Maybe this is a stupid question, but would you take him back as Iceland manager now if given the option?

    Thank you for your Icelandic insight, you've been working towards this moment for 20 years, and have arrived when we needed you most
    Not a stupid question at all. As it stands now the vast majority are very content with the current manager Age Hareide, he's revered as a Norse God of football wisdom and the highest praise - 'an Icelander at heart'. But in the period before Age was hired and should his time come someday, Heimir would be welcomed no question. The fact that he left for opportunities abroad is not a deficit. Icelanders always return home, some come home immediately after studies abroad, others eventually. They are like homing pigeons.

  27. Thanks From:


  28. #40
    International Prospect Razors left peg's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Just Another Emigrant
    Posts
    5,555
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,427
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,415
    Thanked in
    920 Posts
    Enjoy your rise to power Geysir, we'll drag you down with Heimir when we inevitably get sick of him
    Its really not that complicated!!!

Page 2 of 15 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. RTE: Hamann buoyed by Hallgrimsson's pragmatic talk
    By Foot.ie in forum Football Feeds
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10/07/2024, 7:20 PM
  2. ET: Heimir Hallgrímsson appointed as new Ireland boss
    By Foot.ie in forum Football Feeds
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10/07/2024, 7:20 PM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10/07/2024, 2:40 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •