Heimir Hallgrímsson

[CraftyToePoke]

come and play for Shamrock Rovers and you can earn a move to a very decent team overseas.

Bit of a loose description there no ?

Imagine a player being told a very decent team from overseas has come in for him & he asks who it is to be told the word Barnsley.

It'd really kill the buzz, wouldn't it.

[Razors left peg]

Bit of a loose description there no ?

Imagine a player being told a very decent team from overseas has come in for him & he asks who it is to be told the word Barnsley.

It'd really kill the buzz, wouldn't it.

But if Barnsley we paying double or 3 times his salary for Rovers it would keep a bit of that buzz

[TonyD]

Hallgrimsson is just saying it like it is. We'll likely pick a squad in a few weeks time that won't include anyone playing at a lower level than the Championship. Everyone knows League 1 is a level above the domestic league and we call up almost nobody from that division now.

So, for any player playing domestically to become of relevance to Hallgrimsson, they're going to have to leave. That's not realistically going to ever change, the aim for the league is to become one that can consistently develop future international players, but it's not going to be where they will play when they're in the senior team. I find it pretty amazing that Bradley can't see that.

I think you’re missing the point. It’s not really that he said that players playing in the league here wouldn’t be considered, after all, every Ireland manager has applied that policy, with few exceptions. The way he spoke was more to the effect that now that players had done well for Rovers in Europe, they might have a chance of joining a “real” club.

[Eirambler]

Ah, I think that's stretching it out of all proportion. He said they might have a chance to play at a higher level, which hopefully a few might. Open to clarification, but I very much doubt he said Shamrock Rovers weren't a "real" club.

[rebelmusic]

Could we not generally agree that HH should have chosen his words a little more carefully and that Bradley had an overreaction? Storm in a teacup comes to mind

[elatedscum]

Could we not generally agree that HH should have chosen his words a little more carefully and that Bradley had an overreaction? Storm in a teacup comes to mind

Exactly this

[Razors left peg]

Imagine if an L1 manager got upset by the England manager suggesting that their player needs to move to a higher standard league to be in contention for England team. No one would bat an eyelid and any manager that got sensitive about it would be laughed out of a press conference.

Hallgrimsson has done nothing wrong here at all and any controversy is solely on Bradleys obviously very delicate shoulders

[SkStu]

Could we not generally agree that HH should have chosen his words a little more carefully and that Bradley had an overreaction? Storm in a teacup comes to mind

I really have a hard time with identifying what HH said wrong, especially with English being his second language. Bradley being a bit silly.

[nigel-harps1954]

It's true, but it's disrespectful to the league.

That's the gist of it really.

[Eirambler]

It's true, but it's disrespectful to the league.

Does that mean it's now considered inappropriate to say things about the league that are true?

[Buckett]

If your Mrs was carrying a few extra pounds and I called her fat, that would be true but disrespectful. There's some things people in certain roles shouldn't say

[Razors left peg]

If your Mrs was carrying a few extra pounds and I called her fat, that would be true but disrespectful. There's some things people in certain roles shouldn't say

If you were the one in charge of the gym the Mrs went to lose weight it wouldn't be disrespectful to call out the obvious.

Like it or not the Ireland manager is the figure head of football in the country. It's not his job to placate and sugar coat the standard of football in the country. It's his job to pick the best players and the standard domestically isn't good enough for him to even consider picking any players

[Buckett]

If you were the one in charge of the gym the Mrs went to lose weight it wouldn't be disrespectful to call out the obvious.

Ya, but you wouldn't publicly announce that about her, you would need to say it in private.

[tetsujin1979]

This analogy isn't going to end well. Can we move on from it?

[Eirambler]

Didn't Trap once say something along the lines of "in Ireland there is no league" or something similar to that? I mean that's factually incorrect so fair enough to call him out on that, but it feels like HH is getting a harder time for expressing sentiments that are actually true.

[Eirambler]

If your Mrs was carrying a few extra pounds and I called her fat, that would be true but disrespectful. There's some things people in certain roles shouldn't say

For what it's worth, my Mrs is very slim, so this is unlikely to ever be an issue!

[zero]

If people call you fat you should just ignore them.

You're bigger than that.

[Jolly Red Giant]

Imagine if an L1 manager got upset by the England manager suggesting that their player needs to move to a higher standard league to be in contention for England team. No one would bat an eyelid and any manager that got sensitive about it would be laughed out of a press conference.

Hallgrimsson has done nothing wrong here at all and any controversy is solely on Bradleys obviously very delicate shoulders

HH has put his foot in it more than once - and his comments here were a bit stupid (even given the fact that English is his second language - he is pretty fluent) - from Bradley's perspective, it is keeping the media attention on him rather than his team in the run-up to tonight's game.

[TonyD]

Ah, I think that's stretching it out of all proportion. He said they might have a chance to play at a higher level, which hopefully a few might. Open to clarification, but I very much doubt he said Shamrock Rovers weren't a "real" club.

Well obviously I was paraphrasing, but it’s not too difficult to read that interpretation into it. I wouldn’t be getting the pitchforks out, and probably Bradley should have ignored it ( not a huge fan of his public pronouncements anyway) But the Irish international manager could just have congratulated Rovers and left it at that.

[pineapple stu]

I suppose you could argue the case that HH is saying the LoI is definitely a potential source of players. But we all know the LoI isn't really a high enough level to make an impact in the senior squad.