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    If I ever got a chance to manage my country, I'd jump up and down out of control at a 90th minute winner against San Marino to give me my first win.

    Irrespective of opponent, occasion, or otherwise, it must have been a very proud moment for a man who has always represented his country with the utmost dignity and professionalism.

    It wasn't a classic game, it was pretty crap for the most part, but it must have felt as good as a champions league final win to John O'Shea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    If I ever got a chance to manage my country, I'd jump up and down out of control at a 90th minute winner against San Marino to give me my first win.
    I know you're exaggerating to make a point, but had Steve Staunton been jumping up and down out of control after his side's 90th minute winner against San Marino I think he would have started a riot!

    I didn't mind it much - for a first win I guess - but it did remind me of Stephen Kenny. And I don't like being reminded of Stephen Kenny. The excessive celebrations got a bit tiring with him. I don't want Stephen Kenny II to take over...

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    I'm very happy we won, especially that the two lads scored. I'm also not sure Hungary were particularly trying or that we were any good. Nice to see us beat anyone but Gibraltar all the same. Good vibes are important in a dressing room, this will help a lot of lads confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Was Szmodic actually offside or was it the camera angle ~ Surely a professional footballer playing at the level Szmodic has been playing at would Not be stupid enough to be offside in that position ~ Sometimes camera angles can be deceiving !
    Watch it back. He may have been level at the point of Parrott shooting but for the rest of it he was ahead of him. Couldn't believe it to be honest, a player of his calibre

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    Good to see Matt Doherty and Shane Duffy endearing themselves to fans on Insta. Whinging about only getting 45 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldoninhio View Post
    Good to see Matt Doherty and Shane Duffy endearing themselves to fans on Insta. Whinging about only getting 45 minutes.
    They weren't whinging about only getting 45 minutes - they were being upfront about being p*ss-poor while they were on the pitch. The fact that some people on insta saw it as whinging says more about how superficially people look at comments on social media (and then wanting to have a go) than anything else

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    JRG is correct.

    When he was asked about taking them off at HT, O'Shea said that Duffy took a "big knock" to the calf and that he was also conscious about Doherty's lack of game time, both of which could well have affected their performances. Maybe O'Shea was just protecting them a bit, giving some cover from the, eh, ignominy of a half-time substitution.

    Some of the comments on Doherty's post are just nuts though. Lads suggesting Duffy "would rather sing GSTK" (which, considering what he has gone through to play for Ireland, is a disgraceful comment to make) and just wildly abusing the two of them. All of this after a win!
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    The reaction on insta and elsewhere is wild. I know a lot of people don't get sarcasm, and tone in text can be difficult to parse, but the amount of people losing their minds and falling over themselves to attack the lads is desperately sad stuff. We have a growing group of rabidly angry eejits online and I try to ignore them generally, but I can't help but be annoyed about it.

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    A crazy reaction and very demonstrative of what social media is,nobody has a clue what they were meaning by the post but people have decided it’s a huff and the mob followed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    They weren't whinging about only getting 45 minutes - they were being upfront about being p*ss-poor while they were on the pitch. The fact that some people on insta saw it as whinging says more about how superficially people look at comments on social media (and then wanting to have a go) than anything else
    Disgraceful to play Duffy if he has been arrested on drink driving charges, that gets people killed and we are picking him to play for our country

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Disgraceful to play Duffy if he has been arrested on drink driving charges, that gets people killed and we are picking him to play for our country
    Yup, should have never been allowed pull on the Irish jersey again imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Disgraceful to play Duffy if he has been arrested on drink driving charges, that gets people killed and we are picking him to play for our country
    That is a whole other issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Disgraceful to play Duffy if he has been arrested on drink driving charges, that gets people killed and we are picking him to play for our country
    He was 3 times over the limit too

    https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/2431128...s-shane-duffy/

    Bit conflicted on saying he should never play for Ireland again because he was drink driving. Stupid mistakes happen and he is lucky he got away without seriously hurting anyone. He made a ridiculously stupid decision, but if he learned from it I wouldnt say he should never play for us again based on that.... but I do think its in a bit of bad taste that hes been called up so soon after the incident. Would have been very easy to leave him out of this window and say hes dealing with personal issues, or be blunt and send a message that Shanes been left out because of the incident that the FAI condemn.

    All that being said I think he showed on the actual pitch the other night why he should never be picked for Ireland again. His time has passed. Hes not good enough on the ball for the modern game, and now his legs seem to have gone too. Hes just not a good player anymore, and in a position that we have a good bit of depth with much younger players now, its time to move on from him.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Disgraceful to play Duffy if he has been arrested on drink driving charges, that gets people killed and we are picking him to play for our country
    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Yup, should have never been allowed pull on the Irish jersey again imo.
    I wouldn't have held Paul McGrath to that standard, so I'm not going to hold Shane Duffy to it either...

    Obviously both incredibly stupid and incredibly dangerous. Far too common with footballers over in England these days. Jack Grealish back in covid springs to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCw8kkxO5WM

    Pretty sure Bobby Firmino got done the night before a game, as well, back in his relatively early Liverpool days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    That is a whole other issue
    Surely it's a more important issue than if he is good enough to play for ireland?

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    I watched him struggle badly in the Championship play-offs and was slated on here for suggesting that he hang up his boots. He's been an excellent servant to us, and I was astounded when he wasn't called up last year. He's definitely done though. It comes quick, and for a big guy like him, 32 isn't that young. We have at least half a dozen better players at his position.

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    It's incredible how badly that generation of Ireland players born in the early 1990s has fallen away. Between injuries, form and club issues (i.e. sitting tight on a long contract with no game time), every one of Brady, Stevens, Christie, Duffy, Hendrick, Hourihane, McCarthy and Arter look all but done at international level. Doherty is still there but looks well past his best and Egan might come back but there's no guarantee. It's almost a full team worth of players who should be the ones leading the younger players emerging now. Instead Seamus Coleman, born in 1988, is outlasting them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    He was 3 times over the limit too

    https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/2431128...s-shane-duffy/

    Bit conflicted on saying he should never play for Ireland again because he was drink driving. Stupid mistakes happen and he is lucky he got away without seriously hurting anyone. He made a ridiculously stupid decision, but if he learned from it I wouldnt say he should never play for us again based on that.... but I do think its in a bit of bad taste that hes been called up so soon after the incident. Would have been very easy to leave him out of this window and say hes dealing with personal issues, or be blunt and send a message that Shanes been left out because of the incident that the FAI condemn.

    All that being said I think he showed on the actual pitch the other night why he should never be picked for Ireland again. His time has passed. Hes not good enough on the ball for the modern game, and now his legs seem to have gone too. Hes just not a good player anymore, and in a position that we have a good bit of depth with much younger players now, its time to move on from him.
    Leaving something on the roof of your car while you drive away is a stupid mistake. Putting the wrong fuel in your car is a stupid mistake. Getting into your car ****ed off of your face and endangering the lives of others is scumbag behaviour.

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    Whatever about the merits of O'Shea (and I don't think he should be anywhere near any shortlist for the job), no candidate should be supported on the basis that they probably won't be as bad as Kenny. Kenny has the worst record of any Irish manager in history and it's a record that is unlikely to ever be surpassed. So we're going to need a lot more justification than that to consider appointing the likes of O'Shea to be anything other than another FAI shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    If Ireland win or draw in Portugal, O'Shea will be a bona fide candidate. His predecessor retained high credit rating despite seven games without a goal, despite defeat at home to Luxembourg, despite dropping us 21 FIFA places.


    O'Shea's credentials are far from elite but I cannot remember a more vilified candidate in Irish football history. Some of the thrash aimed at him is embarrassing.
    After the Kenny debacle it would seem proper to show John O'Shea some respect alright ~ ~ After-all John O'Shea did put lots in as a player for us.

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