BJOB and the FAI

[Slash/ED]

It is really amazing Kilcoyne was let have any involvement with the FAI at all after what he did, but then to make him honourary life president. You couldn't sum up their ignorance better if you tried.

[manic da hoop]

WAR, Passive etc. I feel your frustration with the goons in Merrion Square, but I still fail to see the direct association you make between the blazers and our national team. They are just one of a number of elements that comprise the game in Ireland, just like the eL, schollboy leagues, youth internationals etc. Thet're your national team, mine and everybody eles's, so why should we select Brian Kerr's side as representatives of the morons who run the game in Ireland. The way I see it, it's more or less on a par with saying I'll refuse to follow Rovers aslong as they play in a league that comes under the juristiction of 80 Merrion Square.

[Dodge]

It is really amazing Kilcoyne was let have any involvement with the FAI at all after what he did, but then to make him honourary life president. You couldn't sum up their ignorance better if you tried.

I blame Cork City for giving him a way back into football myself

[WeAreRovers]

Manic - I'll explain this in very very simple terms for you. Tonight, while Ireland play France in a crucial World Cup qualifier, Louis Kilcoyne will be sitting in the posh seats representing the FAI (and by extension) the national team as Honorary Life Vice President. I fail to see how any Rovers fan (or any football fan for that matter) can support the FAI and their team.

As I said earlier fcuk them. And it's not just the Louis issue. As you well know they are rubbish and contemptible at every level. And as for the olé olé brigade, don't get me started. Club before country every single time.

KOH

[Troy.McClure]

Im a bit confused, so who in the FAI got a Bjob?

[manic da hoop]

I agree with you on almost everything you say there WAR, except for one particular point - they're OUR team, yours and mine. Unfortunatly the FAI has juristiction over the game at ALL levels in this country. But should you choose to follow Brian Kerr's team, the underage teams, or your local club or whatever, then you do so because they are yours, not Louis's or Delaney's. We, the ordinary football people should do everything we can to highlight just how incompetent and corrupt these morons are, but don't let them (or the ole ole'rs for that matter) stop you from supporting your country.

[coislaoi]

I blame Cork City for giving him a way back into football myself

And we are not proud of that either but don't forget it was a bigger gangster "Plonk" (our chairman at the time) who gave him a way back in. Our fans at the time let the club & kilcoyne know how we felt. I still remember the day he stormed out of that hotel across the road from Oriel Park calling us all wánkers.

[Passive]

Nice one: Hoops are on a run of form lately!
How about [SIZE=4]F[/SIZE]ootball [SIZE=4]A[/SIZE]nywhere but [SIZE=4]I[/SIZE]reland

Fcuk Anything Irish always did it for me.

[WeAreRovers]

I agree with you on almost everything you say there WAR, except for one particular point - they're OUR team, yours and mine.

Well that's where you and I differ. The FAI only cares about one team - the senior international side. I don't feel represented by that team in any way whatsoever.

Even in the darkest days of Rovers recent history I never felt that it wasn't my team and my club. I always felt a moral ownership of Rovers. That feeling was lost with the Irish team years and years ago.

So they may be your team but they are certainly not mine. In fact these days I'm not much of a fan of international football anyway. The last 2 major tournaments were utter pish and I fully expect Germany 2006 to be rubbish too. Now the cricket WC in 2007, well that's a different story.......

KOH

[Dodge]

And we are not proud of that either but don't forget it was a bigger gangster "Plonk" (our chairman at the time) who gave him a way back in. Our fans at the time let the club & kilcoyne know how we felt. I still remember the day he stormed out of that hotel across the road from Oriel Park calling us all wánkers.

Don't worry I hate Rovers more for giving a job to Alan Duncan....

[pete]

Im a bit confused, so who in the FAI got a Bjob?

What happens at away game junkets stays away

[WeAreRovers]

Don't worry I hate Rovers more for giving a job to Alan Duncan....

It's okay Dodge, he was hung, drawn and quartered with the rest of the useless fcuks.

KOH

[manic da hoop]

Best of a bad lot IMO. Although that doesn't say much

[BohsFans]

It's actually Honorary Life Vice President and he received his gold blazer a good few years ago. Nice reward for trying to destroy the most famous club in the country.

As Vitruvian man says it's shocking and in any national association worth the name he'd have been drummed out years ago. I mean the man is a scumbag tout as well as everything else - as anyone who's had the misfortune to pay over the odds at World Cups will know.

As long as Kilcoyne's involved the FAI and the national team can go fcuk themselves. And that's just one crime in an appaling list over the years.

KOH

fair play

[BohDiddley]

This discussion links in a bit with the thread about the new supporters association, the initials of which escape me just now (how about an acronym competition?).
Kilcoyne and his ilk are not important enough to stop EL fans supporting their country. I appreciate that hoops will feel more bitter than others about him, but I really don't think that the right response is a self-spiting sulk. I can also endorse the club before country sentiment -- I'll always get much more involved at a Bohs match -- but they are not opposing values, even with Kilcoyne's presence polluting the international event.
EL fans have a bit of a reputation for being moany (no, it's not just Bohs!) in a marginalised, anoraky way. We should be trying to get rid of that if we want to promote Irish football to the masses.

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Of course he doesn't, all the FAI are are glorified travel agents for Manchester United.

People gave Delaney credited for giving EL fans an allocation for the North Terrace in Morguesdown Road but I don't see why. The FAI treat EL fans as a freakshow - "let's stick them in the terrace so as they can wave flags and entertain the real people". Fcuk them. The minute a big games comes around who loses their ticket allocation, EL fans or day-trippers?

Not one blazer in FAIlure is fit to tie the shoelaces of an EL fan who actually supports the growth of Irish football every week.

Personally, I don't care if France win tonight. In fact, I doubt I'll even watch the game.

I agree with you 100%. BTW any one think Eircom league supporters should boycott Ireland games

[chippie0001]

Manic - I'll explain this in very very simple terms for you. Tonight, while Ireland play France in a crucial World Cup qualifier, Louis Kilcoyne will be sitting in the posh seats representing the FAI (and by extension) the national team as Honorary Life Vice President. I fail to see how any Rovers fan (or any football fan for that matter) can support the FAI and their team.

As I said earlier fcuk them. And it's not just the Louis issue. As you well know they are rubbish and contemptible at every level. And as for the olé olé brigade, don't get me started. Club before country every single time.

KOH

Like others I could not care less about the national team. Does not bother me one bit how they do as I have no time for the FAI and the people that run it.

But on the fans, I flicked tonight between the Ireland game and the Northern Ireland game. The atmosphere in Belfast was unreal and the stands looked like they were rocking with the noise, even before the North scored. They were roared on for 90 minutes. In Lansdowne, apart from booing the French players they could have been at a tea party. Must be that most of our fans are not used to actually going to live football, don't actually know what real rivalry is.

[Billy Lord]

Given that the capricious, self-centred and floppy-haired Delaney `sold' his shares in WUFC (for a quid, alledgedly) to someone who bought the club purely as a vehicle for his talentless son and is now holding WUFC to ransom for some very dodgy services rendered (`You bought us bankruptcy? Well done!' Here's 200 Grand!), I doubt if anyone can gain satisfaction from this situation through official channels, because official channels equals bull. WUFC fans need to get legal. Or get a gun. Maybe both!
Save Waterford United. Help WUFC. The FAI is beyond redemption and we can onlly solve that problem from within, so the more fans-owned clubs the better.
It's gonna at least make for interesting EL meetings.

[Da Real Rover]

Like others I could not care less about the national team. Does not bother me one bit how they do as I have no time for the FAI and the people that run it.

But on the fans, I flicked tonight between the Ireland game and the Northern Ireland game. The atmosphere in Belfast was unreal and the stands looked like they were rocking with the noise, even before the North scored. They were roared on for 90 minutes. In Lansdowne, apart from booing the French players they could have been at a tea party. Must be that most of our fans are not used to actually going to live football, don't actually know what real rivalry is.

Agree with ya all the way there, before jack charlton and the english second team it was only the LOI fans that kept the national teams alive. We followed them to hell and back and stuck with them, now they have the prawn sandwich and ole ole brigade, when the bad times come back, will they continue to follow them, will they sh!te. There just there cause we are winning, nothing else. It is the the opposite for NI, they have had so much sh!te to deal with over the past years that it is only the hard core and true fans left. That is why windsor park was like a football ground and not like a game at the ashes. I have no love for my national team anymore because they have fukced the real fans over and over, and you no what they dont care and nobody else does. So you can tell the FAI-lure to go and forcefully shove there glamour fans up there arse because soon the success will dry up and they'll be out in the cold with no fans. I dont know about you but there not my national team.

[Vitruvian Man]

The FAI(lure) already have a problem on their hands. They could have sold out landsdowne a couple of times over with glory hunting SKY sports fans for the France match but they have to cook up all kinds of schemes not to get people to go and see the smaller matches against even quality opposition like Turkey for example.

It looks like last night was the result that means we wont go to Germany - even if we win our next two games, which is unlikely, we won't get through the qualifying stage. That means a lack of glory to hunt for another few years and subsequent drop in attendance for the FAIlures non-glamour games.

To be honest who deserves to grace the World Cup more. Kevidine Kilbane or Zenedine Zidane. The French were no great shakes but we were really muck -there is a serious lack of quality players in our international team. And whose fault is that - well no prizes for guessing.

I know I could have got tickets for the game last night if had I really wanted to but games against Russia and Switzerland for the European Championships really killed any enthusiasm I have had for going to landsdowne. I was mildly disappointed that Ireland lost, I'd rather watch the Brits-in-Green in the World Cup than Costa Rica or Norway but to be honest I'd much rather Bohs beat Pats on Friday than Ireland win the World Cup - it just means more to me.