2024 FAI Cup

**nr637** · 02/11/2024, 12:49 PM

The fact that Derry have lost out on a European spot through the league has added a further incentive to the game as well as a great reason for Derry fans to travel in huge numbers to achieve something this season! ?

**oriel** · 02/11/2024, 8:26 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Nearly 4,000 of that were seat kills.

None of this changes anything, the crowd (who attended) the 2023 FAI Cup Final was 43,881, which was just under 8k of the Aviva capacity, so those who attended meant the actual crowd (again an excellent attendance) accounted for give or take 85% full. This was a superb crowd, but it can't be considered a sell out.

The question also remains, why (if it was correct) would up to 8k buy a ticket and not go?

If the capacity (for any reason) was set at 44k, then fine, it was a full capacity and a probably sell out. I don't think this was the case.

Be interesting to see how many tickets sold v attended in this years final, I see a figure of 35k tickets sold, surprised at that but great to see.

Added spice now that Derry have to win to qualify for Europe.

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 02/11/2024, 8:43 PM

48k tickets were available to be sold and they were all sold so it was a sell out

**oriel** · 02/11/2024, 8:52 PM

Ok, so now we are down to just over 4k people who bought tickets and decided not attend.

Logic, if 48k sold, attendance on the day = call it 44k (43,881), so its a 'tickets sold' sell out but attendance still almost 8k below actual capacity, and 4k below the tickers available.

Still seems odd to me, those passing through scanners and who actually went to game = 43.8k, some are saying it was a 'sell out'.

Even odder why thousands would purchase a ticket and not attend.

The records will show an attendance of 44k, which was well below capacity.

**nigel-harps1954** · 03/11/2024, 9:19 AM

Originally Posted by oriel

Ok, so now we are down to just over 4k people who bought tickets and decided not attend.

Logic, if 48k sold, attendance on the day = call it 44k (43,881), so its a 'tickets sold' sell out but attendance still almost 8k below actual capacity, and 4k below the tickers available.

Still seems odd to me, those passing through scanners and who actually went to game = 43.8k, some are saying it was a 'sell out'.

Even odder why thousands would purchase a ticket and not attend.

The records will show an attendance of 44k, which was well below capacity.

You're really bothered by all of this, and I can't figure out why.

**pineapple stu** · 03/11/2024, 9:29 AM

Yep.

A sell-out for me is a game where tickets stop being sold because there weren't any left to sell.

That seems to have been the case last year, even if it wasn't a full house.

And so we move on?

**outspoken** · 03/11/2024, 11:07 AM

Aye, by that logic, the likes of the old firm, any of the big derby games in England or in Europe aren't actually sell outs either given every single seat in the place isn't in use. It was a sell out.

**redobit** · 03/11/2024, 11:13 AM

A 'sell out' is one thing, but the 'attendance' on the day is a whole different. Not to mention the 'capacity'.

Ah the beauty of off season chat.

**oriel** · 03/11/2024, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

You're really bothered by all of this, and I can't figure out why.

Because it wasn't a sell out, just under 44k people attended, the stadium holds 51-52k, and I don't buy the line that 5-8k bought tickets and didn't turn up.

Now if only 44k went on sale or made available, yes this is a sell out.

**Jack B** · 03/11/2024, 6:17 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

Because it wasn't a sell out, just under 44k people attended, the stadium holds 51-52k, and I don't buy the line that 5-8k bought tickets and didn't turn up.

Now if only 44k went on sale or made available, yes this is a sell out.

It was literally sold out though. There came a point where if you wanted to buy a ticket you could not, because they had all been purchased already. That is by definition a sell out, you're trying to claim it wasn't by arguing a different point.

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 03/11/2024, 6:29 PM

Stop arguing with him on it might be the best course of action here

**2 Year Contract** · 03/11/2024, 7:33 PM

A man sold his car to a neighbour recently. The car hasn’t left the neighbours driveway once since he bought it. This of course must mean that the man did not sell his car

**Cosmo** · 03/11/2024, 8:14 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

Because it wasn't a sell out, just under 44k people attended, the stadium holds 51-52k, and I don't buy the line that 5-8k bought tickets and didn't turn up.

Now if only 44k went on sale or made available, yes this is a sell out.

Is it any wonder these lads can't organise one supporters group to help save their club going to the wall?

**oriel** · 03/11/2024, 9:26 PM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Is it any wonder these lads can't organise one supporters group to help save their club going to the wall?

Hey you girl with a sad face, come up to my place and live it up !

**Another Bohemia** · 04/11/2024, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Is it any wonder these lads can't organise one supporters group to help save their club going to the wall?

Listen if there was only 1 supporters group/trust who would they say can't be trusted and complain about on social media & in their meetings? Who would they look down their nose on and feel superior to while planning to win the first division at a canter without necessarily even having a license to play in the league. It's easy from the outside looking in but you clearly haven't taken town politics and curtain twitching tendencies into account so 2 trusts is a necessity even if the owner doesn't want 1.

**ForeForeToo** · 04/11/2024, 1:25 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

None of this changes anything, the crowd (who attended) the 2023 FAI Cup Final was 43,881, which was just under 8k of the Aviva capacity, so those who attended meant the actual crowd (again an excellent attendance) accounted for give or take 85% full. This was a superb crowd, but it can't be considered a sell out.

The question also remains, why (if it was correct) would up to 8k buy a ticket and not go?

If the capacity (for any reason) was set at 44k, then fine, it was a full capacity and a probably sell out. I don't think this was the case.

Be interesting to see how many tickets sold v attended in this years final, I see a figure of 35k tickets sold, surprised at that but great to see.

Added spice now that Derry have to win to qualify for Europe.

There is a huge difference between all tickets being sold and the actual attendance. Two different things that do not equate to each other.

**EatYerGreens** · 04/11/2024, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jack B

It was literally sold out though. There came a point where if you wanted to buy a ticket you could not, because they had all been purchased already. That is by definition a sell out, you're trying to claim it wasn't by arguing a different point.

This is shaping up to be the worst off-season ever....