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    Pathetic.

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    Shocking really .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermobohs View Post
    Pathetic.
    FAI screwed up and have acknowledged that.

    Based on the above and applying letter of the law then it should have been a 3-0 win granted to Rovers.

    However that ‘mortally’ would be unfair to Bohs who did nothing wrong.

    A compromise would be for BOTH clubs to agree to a replay.

    However even if they did the rules don’t allow for that - therefore to do that even if all were in agreement would mean breaking another rule to fix the original error- that would be both wrong imo and would also set an unwanted precedent that most likely would cause issues in the future.

    So the FAI made their ruling I suspect in hope that Rovers wouldn’t appeal; we’ve now rightly called out their bluff .

    Bohs shouldn’t suffer because of the FAI’s incompetence nor should Rovers.

    Based on the rules in place Rovers should be awarded a 3-0 win and a separate issue is how Bohs might seek recompense ….. another fine mess.

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    It seems Kerry may also ultimately have to seek recompense, with the Examiner suggesting that Sunday's game would have to be postponed, pending a ruling:

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41455981.html

    Granted, if the appeal is rejected, the tickets would remain valid for a later date, and if accepted, the Rovers match would invariably also sell out, but all rather messy.

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    There is no comparable competition in this country, we have no league cup. Therefore he serves his ban in the league. He did that. How stupid do rovers have to be to not understand this?petty and vindictive, also thick as ****e.he was red carded in a league competition, so serves his ban in a comparable competition, the FAI cup is not a comparable competition as it’s an open one.

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    That really is petty stuff from Rovers. Pathetic as you say Dermo.
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermobohs View Post
    There is no comparable competition in this country, we have no league cup. Therefore he serves his ban in the league. He did that. How stupid do rovers have to be to not understand this?petty and vindictive, also thick as ****e.he was red carded in a league competition, so serves his ban in a comparable competition, the FAI cup is not a comparable competition as it’s an open one.
    Ok ; I’ve provided a rational set of scenarios based on expert opinion ( and yes expert opinion isn’t always right hence the need to adjudicate).

    If situation was reversed I’d expect Bohs to take the same approach as us- so calling us ‘stupid’ ‘petty’ as ‘vindictive’ is churlish- this is professional sport and we expect the governing body to operate in a professional manner; they didn’t so of course we’ll seek to seek that.

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    Yep 100% what i have heard , FAI know they have screwed up and were reverting to Delaney era FAI, bully the clubs to do what they are toild for fear of "payback"
    Assuming the FAI double down on their BS id expect Rovers to appeal to CAS and ultimately get a packet of money from the FAI who will eventually have to admit they screwed up.

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    From the outside looking in as someone with no horse in this race, I think the Bohs fans calling rovers and their legal reps 'pathetic/petty/vindicive/stupid' etc. have misdirected those comments. By all accounts it seems that the FAI are the idiots here. I think everyone agrees that Bohs are an innocent bystander in it all but it’s terrible football administration for the FAI not to have at least double checked this in advance of advising Bohs on it. Fair play to rovers for trying to hold the FAI accountable on it because that’s the only way things will potentially change in similar instances in the future
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    Just put Kerry through and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    FAI screwed up and have acknowledged that.

    Based on the above and applying letter of the law then it should have been a 3-0 win granted to Rovers.
    Where have the FAI acknowledged this? What exactly is this law that should be applied the letter?

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    It’s all bullcrap from shams, load of nonsense. No one fecked up, correct competition to serve suspension was identified, bohs were informed, player served ban end of story.
    As if I couldn’t despise that shower of tramps any more, yet another reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermobohs View Post
    It’s all bullcrap from shams, load of nonsense. No one fecked up, correct competition to serve suspension was identified, bohs were informed, player served ban end of story.
    As if I couldn’t despise that shower of tramps any more, yet another reason.
    Cant argue with such well argued and comprehensive analysis and logic like that
    Perhaps instead of condemning Rovers consider why they have spent money on appeals and reappeals.
    Unlike the speculation on here they have listened to the BS and the speaking out of both sides of the mouth from the FAI and know the FAI are trying to do a Delaney on them.
    Fair play to them for standing up to it, maybe the next time the FAI screw up they might just admit it instead of doing a cover up.
    Hopefully if the FAI try to double down on the BS Rovers appeal to FIFA directly or whatever the next step is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermobohs View Post
    It’s all bullcrap from shams, load of nonsense. No one fecked up, correct competition to serve suspension was identified, bohs were informed, player served ban end of story.
    As if I couldn’t despise that shower of tramps any more, yet another reason.
    Agree with the correct competition comment. This will be heard super quick and the current decision should stand. You can understand why Rovers appealed, they need to get to Europe any way they can next year after all Bohs weren't expected to get there and now have an opportunity to do so. Imagine rovers come 4th and Bohs win the Cup. It will hurt even more.

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    The FAI are bound to go with the 'League Trophy' argument, comp run by the EF league rather than FA, hence serving the suspension via LoI rather than FAI Cup albeit the league here is run by the FAI but surely that allows room for choice rather than restriction. If they havent rolled this one out then they have made a double mess of it, they could have said that they knew what they were doing and made a decision on a particular interpretation of the rules as they stand and will update the rules for clarification for 2025. I agree with Nigel though, the farest decision is to put both sides out now and let Kerry progress!!

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    Finding the current FAI rulebook online is like trying to find a needle in a haystack but I found it on Page 180/270 under View Handbook > https://www.fai.ie/about/governance/

    Looks to me the FAI followed their rule and Rovers are throwing a juvenile hissy fit wasting everyone's time?


    SECTION 7 - DISCIPLINARY REGULATIONS
    SECTION 7.5 – SANCTIONS AND DISCIPLINARY & APPEALS PROCEDURE
    REGULATION 10. MATCH SUSPENSION


    11. If a Player registers with a club in a different League to the League that imposed the original match suspension(s) any outstanding match suspension(s) shall be served in the new League. The level of football shall be determined by the Disciplinary Body of the new League.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermobohs View Post
    There is no comparable competition in this country, we have no league cup. Therefore he serves his ban in the league. He did that. How stupid do rovers have to be to not understand this?petty and vindictive, also thick as ****e.he was red carded in a league competition, so serves his ban in a comparable competition, the FAI cup is not a comparable competition as it’s an open one.
    This exactly - juvenile sh!te from Shams

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    If I was of a cynical mind I'd say that Rovers know they haven't a hope in this but would like to upset Bohs match preparation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesie View Post
    If I was of a cynical mind I'd say that Rovers know they haven't a hope in this but would like to upset Bohs match preparation
    I think it's all very petty, but not sure they really care all that much about Bohs' preparations for a match.
    Or maybe they are actually that petty?

    Either way, as evident from discussions here, it appears the rule is open to interpretation. The FAI made a decision, then re-confirmed it. Rovers should just let it go.
    Ask for the rule to be coded for next season, if they genuinely care that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesie View Post
    If I was of a cynical mind I'd say that Rovers know they haven't a hope in this but would like to upset Bohs match preparation
    In what way could they upset Bohs match preparation? Surely Reynolds and his players have been/will continue to prepare as normal for the game regardless of what decision is made
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