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    The second leg of the UEFA Europa League Third qualifying round is Thursday 15 August. Kerry usually play on Friday night. Kerry would have been expected to play Bohemians on Friday 16 August. The Bohemians match is scheduled for Sunday 18 August. 18 August would suit Shamrock Rovers after European football on 15 August. Is there a link?

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    Unless the FAI had to schedule all the last 16 ties by a specific date, it's more likely they've already decided not to take any further action on the case.

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    If they signed off on him playing and they kick Bohs out, unless they said “you can if you think he is eligible to,play, but it’s on you” then it looks a fairly forward case Bohs could take against them.

    no chance any action is being taken!

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    Yeah, I'd be of the opinion that, as soap-opera-y as it may appear,Rovers are not interested in having a beef with boez,but are actually seeking to highlight the utter ineptitude of the FAIlures.

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    It's a clubs responsibility to make sure a player is eligible not the Fai's. If the fai said its OK and it turns out to be wrong its on the club. I still think it will be like appealing against red cards I.e pointless but let's see.
    Even if the FAI gave the go ahead it means nothing. Its always on the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    It's a clubs responsibility to make sure a player is eligible not the Fai's. If the fai said its OK and it turns out to be wrong its on the club. I still think it will be like appealing against red cards I.e pointless but let's see.
    Even if the FAI gave the go ahead it means nothing. Its always on the club
    Any idea why is it taking so long for the FAI to make a decision …. In fairness to Bohs if they the question and FAI confirmed in writing that he was cleared to play against us ; then surely the logical outcome should be a replay and Devoy not allowed to play in it

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    With the onus on the club to confirm eligibility, who much further can a club go than contact their FA to check. If the answer was player cleared to play then the club can do no more. If there is nothing in the rules for this sepcific situation and no precedence then they easiest path to a solution is mark iit off, close the loophole, and carry on as you were. To do anything else makes it a lot more complicted, over turn the result and the FAI are open to a suit as could replaying the match. It would be tough for rovers to build a case in te absence of clear rules and CAS type decisions would be to diiss and fix the rule book going forward. Its certainly some added interest in the cup after your own side are no longer involved. The fair thing to do is to replay the game, Bohs dont want to risk their place, Rovers will be desperate to do anything to improve their chances for European qualifiction with a league slot at risk. Been a while since we've had this kind of drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    Any idea why is it taking so long for the FAI to make a decision …. In fairness to Bohs if they the question and FAI confirmed in writing that he was cleared to play against us ; then surely the logical outcome should be a replay and Devoy not allowed to play in it
    Id wager the reason no decision has been made is that the FAI are looking to pay Rovers a settlement and basically end the case there. In the few days before the next round is due to be played there will be a token statement from the FAI and Rovers will have a few extra euro in the transfer kitty next year.

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    How did the issue come to Rovers attention? Is it usual for a club to trawl through a players history and/or registrations. Delaney gave Waterford a free peak at all Dundalk player registrations after a playoff loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    Any idea why is it taking so long for the FAI to make a decision …. In fairness to Bohs if they the question and FAI confirmed in writing that he was cleared to play against us ; then surely the logical outcome should be a replay and Devoy not allowed to play in it
    In which case we should be able to replay our league game v Dundalk and he be allowed play, as he served his suspension in that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Bohemia View Post
    Id wager the reason no decision has been made is that the FAI are looking to pay Rovers a settlement and basically end the case there. In the few days before the next round is due to be played there will be a token statement from the FAI and Rovers will have a few extra euro in the transfer kitty next year.
    I’d be amazed if they did that and we accepted it…. Are you basing your view on some info you’re aware of ?

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    Not a chance we would take 30 pieces of silver off the FAI.
    IF the rules havent been applied properly then its a 3 nil forfeit.
    From LOI Central podcast today Dan McD saying some sources in FAI now saying they might have messed up compared to the original "nothing to see here comments"
    It seems like Rovers have an argueable case but i still think the FAI will whitwash it.
    Ive said it already i dont care about the cup but putting one over on Bohs like this would be funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    I’d be amazed if they did that and we accepted it…. Are you basing your view on some info you’re aware of ?
    I'm just basing it off any time a large company or governing body makes an error. That's the basic playbook. They try to keep it out of the courts so as little light is shined on it as possible and promise to do better next time or update the regulations while changing very little if anything at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Bohemia View Post
    I'm just basing it off any time a large company or governing body makes an error. That's the basic playbook. They try to keep it out of the courts so as little light is shined on it as possible and promise to do better next time or update the regulations while changing very little if anything at all.
    There is a similar enough precedent to this with Sean Hargan back in 2006. He picked up four yellows, and was due to be suspended after the disciplinary committee meeting.
    However, IIRC, for some reason, the committee decided on this a week earlier than usual, so didn't email (or fax, depending on the story) the club straight away, instead intending to leave it to the next week. The FAI then forgot to send the email the following week, Derry forgot about the suspension, and he played three games before everyone copped on, then he served his suspension.
    Shels, or Ollie Byrne more precisely, lost the plot over this. In the end nothing happened, so the FAI took the blame for not sending the email.

    This is the same season that Shels attempted (and succeeded?) to have Bohs deducted points over Jason McGuiness playing when suspended too.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...sh/4793513.stm

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    More on that here, including Ollie Byrne complaining that Dublin City's results were expunged from the table, giving Derry an advantage. Remember that saga? All the while knowing the Revenue Commissioners were closing in with their winding up order. Heady days.

    https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce.../26353294.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendz View Post
    The second leg of the UEFA Europa League Third qualifying round is Thursday 15 August. Kerry usually play on Friday night. Kerry would have been expected to play Bohemians on Friday 16 August. The Bohemians match is scheduled for Sunday 18 August. 18 August would suit Shamrock Rovers after European football on 15 August. Is there a link?
    An interesting theory but it might make sense because bar the Rose of Tralee what would be the reason to play this game on a Sunday afternoon.

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    Not a chance the FAI admit anything. Not sure what your options would be beyond that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    More on that here, including Ollie Byrne complaining that Dublin City's results were expunged from the table, giving Derry an advantage. Remember that saga? All the while knowing the Revenue Commissioners were closing in with their winding up order. Heady days.

    https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce.../26353294.html
    I dont think many forget the Stuey Byrne league winning post match interview that time, one of the oddest very LoI moments ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    An interesting theory but it might make sense because bar the Rose of Tralee what would be the reason to play this game on a Sunday afternoon.
    Kerry played Drogheda on that Friday last year. Everyone in Kerry expected Friday night. The Sunday fixture has come out of the blue. It could be festival related but there was no statement saying it was for those reasons. All hints at the date being selected by the FAI.

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    Wonder when the appeal is being heard.
    Surprised Dan Mc doesnt have it

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