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[Éanna]

I must say the shels fans seem to be getting their knickers in a twist

how unusual! Wonder where they got that from

[Slash/ED]

If Red Inc or Brigod Dearag want a review then they can send it to genesisreporter@yahoo.com and it (if written any way well) would be printed.

Somehow someway I just can't see that happening.

[Drumcondra Red]

The man is bad for the image of the league. By making it clear that fans of the league don't approve of the thuggish behaviour of that individual, then it is enhancing the image of the league. Lots of people have heard of Ollie Byrne, because of his antics. His fault, not anyone else's.

The man has done more for our club then anyone else in the league, this should be highlighted, not the negitives, you can save them for your own fanzines down in the village!!!

[Éanna]

Another individual who has been casitgated on this site by the Cork rabble.

Sorry, we'll stick to saying everything is fine so will we? That way the league can stay exactly where it is, and watch clubs go bust again, watch fan numbers stay static etc etc There are things CCFC, and indeed its fans, may be criticised for, but to criticise people for trying to move the league forward and professionalise it....... well it shows some people up for what they are

[Slash/ED]

So an article entitled Cork fans, football hooligans focusing on incidents such as the glass bottles and flares thrown onto the pitch and the 10 on 1 outside Richmond Park that'd be published no problem? Is that the kind of shyte you want in the fanzine to promote domestic football?

The fact the title of the article was changed from the original writer (Who in fairness to Tiktok is the one Cork fan I'd trust to write something approaching balanced when it comes to Shels ) is far worse than if it was just someone on a rant. That's pretty pathetic really.

[Éanna]

Somehow someway I just can't see that happening.

thats right, everyone's against you come on like, the guy has made an offer, but rather than take him up on it, you dismiss it out of hand

[Slash/ED]

thats right, everyone's against you come on like, the guy has made an offer, but rather than take him up on it, you dismiss it out of hand

I'm not involved in the fanzine, though I do write for it and know the people who are. I didn't dismiss anything, I simply said somehow someway I can't see it happening, especially but not just because of this crap.

[Éanna]

The man has done more for our club then anyone else in the league, this should be highlighted, not the negitives, you can save them for your own fanzines down in the village!!!

What village is that then? I happen to live in the City of Cork. Why don't you keep your childish insults for somewhere else DR. As for what he's done for Shels, I wouldn't argue with that- only a fool would- but I'm not interested in what he's done for Shels, I'm interested in what he has done for the league as a whole, and that, I'm afraid, is a run of negative publicity stretching back a number of years now. He's a liability. If you want to remain blind to that, its your choice. Or if you want to value his contribution to Shelbourne over his damage to the rest of the league, thats also your choice. But don't abuse people for having their own views on the matter.

[Éanna]

I'm not involved in the fanzine, though I do write for it and know the people who are. I didn't dismiss anything, I simply said somehow someway I can't see it happening, especially but not just because of this crap.

He's made the offer. What more can he do? Very easy to dismiss it and cry wolf

[Slash/ED]

He's made the offer. What more can he do? Very easy to dismiss it and cry wolf

I'm not in a position to dismiss anything, I don't speak for Red Inc or anyone involved in it.

[Dodge]

Just lost respect for the fanzine for adding the line about "it only being a chant"

its a fanzine FFS it has to be abut opinions. If the Shels fans are giving the right to reply I don't see the problem

[pete]

I'm barred from relaying any quotes from the article itself but on receipt of advance copy i can confirm that the headline is Herald-esque & article seems fair & balanced.

[Slash/ED]

Why was the article changed from the original to some sensationalist anti Shels crap then? Without so much as the decency to tell the writer who's article is printed under it.

[pineapple stu]

The man has done more for our club then anyone else in the league

I'd argue against that - look at Doc O'Neill at UCD or Jim Rhatigan at Kilkenny for starters. They've done as much good as Ollie without thenegative associations. Ollie has been good and bad for Shels - his antics have been blamed for failing to secure bigger sponsorship on the back of last year's CL run, apparently - so he's an interesting character and fully suitable to an article in an Irish football fanzine.

While the title - and the changing of it - are dubious at best (and, it is important to note, have been apologised for; it is Troy's second attempt, so surely some slack should be given?), to decry the entire fanzine because of one article which most haven't read is nonsense, in my opinion. And talk of it being a "Cork fanzine" is nonsense - I'll add my weight to that as I did up the Cyprus match preview.

[Superhoops]

Sorry, we'll stick to saying everything is fine so will we? That way the league can stay exactly where it is, and watch clubs go bust again, watch fan numbers stay static etc etc There are things CCFC, and indeed its fans, may be criticised for, but to criticise people for trying to move the league forward and professionalise it....... well it shows some people up for what they are

How the f**k does carrying out character assassinations on high profile individuals from other EL clubs 'move the league forward and professionalise it'.

If it wasnt for the Ollie Byrnes and Pat Devlins, Shels and Bray Wanderers would have gone to the wall ages ago. These two guys have done more for their respective clubs that any two other individuals you could name.

Does writing spurious articles about indivuduals like Ollie Byrne and Don Givens increase fan numbers at EL clubs, I doubt it!

[Drumcondra Red]

Well said superhoops, I'm glad somebody agrees with us, I don't see how you don't find this offencive to Shels fans! As for it being balanced it says the good things, but then says but blah blah blah, as if to say the good doesn't count for anything!

[Dodge]

Well said superhoops, I'm glad somebody agrees with us, I don't see how you don't find this offencive to Shels fans!

Since when does being a shels fan mean you are automatically an Ollie fan. Is there no separation?

[OneRedArmy]

In order to stop the bloody annoying bickering can I suggest a Shels fan writes a balanced piece on the EL collusus that is Pat Dolan for the next edition.

I genuinely think this would make a good story if done in well, as there is a lot of positives but also a few genuine questions to be asked.

[Cosmo]

how unusual! Wonder where they got that from

In fairness eanna (and not taking a pop at you personally) but there no better than the cork web fans for getting their knickers in a twist over nothing

[Drumcondra Red]

Since when does being a shels fan mean you are automatically an Ollie fan. Is there no separation?

You're missing the point, we don't always agree with his behaviour, but a negitive article on him shows Shelbourne FC in a bad light, and in turn shows the league in a bad light, you have to remember around the barstoolers population Shelbourne are one of the better known EL teams!!!

Look it's out today, hopefully this thread will cause a few people to want a read

I'm sure it will tiktok