At least the derby against Kerry remains.Originally Posted by Ancient Rush
I phoned the speaking clock to hear a voice speak, it said - "At the tone you will be very much alone"
Treaty average largely bumped up by their opening few games. They've dropped like a stone in the second half of the season. Harps the next highest average, but the lowest attendance at Finn Park this season is higher than seven Markets Field attendances.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
To be honest you could pick apart every club's attendances like that, the fact of the matter is that we welcomed almost 21,500 spectators through the gates for 20 Men's games and saw a good increase for our Women's team also.
Still a great attendance figure, especially when the Dalymount capacity is restricted and Bohs have struggled all season!
Yeah it's not exactly an appealing fixture. Lucky to break 500 I would say although there's been the odd surprise this season
I guess the better statistic to use to see where a club's support is using the median attendance. Every club will have a couple of outliers both big and small skewing the overall average one way or the other.
You'd have to hope that having 5 clubs in the title race with 3 games to go will give a decent boost to the overall LOI total across the board.
FD playoffs will be interesting too. All 4 clubs should fancy their chances.
I haven't seen the overall LOI number in a while but I think we will need some bumper figures to get close to last years total.
Missing:
Longford v Athlone - 5th Oct
Longford v Cobh - 12th Oct
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 4,243 (4,243 {2023}; 3,209 {2022};2,878{19}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Derry - 2,860 (3,336; 3,184; 2,049; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Drogheda - 2,002 (1,916; 1,941; 721 FD; ; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
Dundalk - 2,436 (2,636; 2,689; 2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Galway - 2,937 (2,018 FD; 2,081 FD; 780 FD; 746 FD; 1,376; 1,169; 1,290; 975 FD)
Pat's - 4,337 (4,232; 3,489; 1,919; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 5,868 (6,109; 5,379; 3,384; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Shels - 4,200 (3,393; 2,913; 1,071 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
Sligo - 2,774 (2,555; 2,166; 1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
Waterford - 2,749 (1,833 FD; 1,705 FD; 1,496; 2,329; 1,550 FD; 314 FD; 460 FD; 470 FD; 478 FD; 453 FD; 466 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 642 (872; 307; 382; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 644 (663; 482; 773; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cobh - 749 (1,020; 872; 268; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Cork - 2,800 (3,666 PD; 3,517; 2,505 PD; 4,245 PD; 4,559 PD; 2,533 PD; 3,263 PD; 3,777 PD; 1,965 PD; 2,786 PD; 2,128)
Harps - 1,030 (1,154; 1,293 PD; 1,154 PD; 708; 1,202 PD; 1,216 PD; 784; 449; 479; 429; 433; 644)
Kerry - 623 (784)
Longford - 413 (679; 500; 610; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Treaty - 1,060 (642; 695)
UCD - 338 (809 PD; 953 PD; 739 PD; 365; 236; 297; 216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD)
Wexford - 556 (689; 445; 235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 3,449 (3,289; 2,687; 2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 879(1,035; 1,193; 586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,126 (2,162; 2,051; 1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 569,142 (592,093; 486,365; 393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 153,842 (186,369; 178,000; 79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 722,984 (778,462; 664,365; 472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Going to predict the final figures will just about get to 750k for the season.
Cup, euro and playoff games will add another 100k or so. Really thought this season would end up getting closer to the one million mark across Irish soccer.
It's obvious that football here is hit its ceiling until there's some government investment to help us to the next level (level 1). At least now the argument isn't build it and they will come, it's they are coming and what we are providing the public is ****ing embarrassing
15 Premier Division games left, average around 3,500 will add another 52,500 to the total there.
Final round of First Division games largely dependent on how many turn up for Cork lifting the trophy in Turners Cross. But say 5,000 are in attendances across the final 5 games there.
In those two scenarios the total attendance is ever so slightly up from last season, Premier Division taking a nice jump above 600k total and the First Division taking a worrying dip.
Cup so far has seen just under 46,000 through the gates, so another 30k onto that expected, and with 8k at the Presidents Cup, we'll probably see the total for the season being somewhere around about 900k.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Which 'we' are you referring to here? Government investment?
When Owen Heary lifted the league trophy eighteen years ago, Tolka Park averaged 1,690 spectators. This year, the average crowds had risen to 4,209. 2024 is the centenary of Tolka Park as a football stadium.
https://www.rte.ie/gaeilge/2024/1017...-ar-an-imeall/
Every dog has its day even LoI! Id love to see som really indepth research on what drove this surge in crowds. People will throw out things like covid lockdowns and missing what was taken for granted, people growing weary of the TV product in favour of live games etc. But do we really know? Is it a trend that will pass or are crowds here to stay, possibly somwhere in between where some drift off and other the bug will have bitten. Regardless it was top of the wishlist 20+ years ago that the wider public would cop on to what many of us have been saying for years....I still miss being able to walk up to any ground, any game, any time and go anywhere...but thats the Scrooge of Christmas past in me!
Don't know the exact figures, but I'm pretty sure that over the last few seasons, Irish League attendances have shown the same growth, percentage-wise, as the LOI. With the same plateau this season, funnily enough.
Aye, but isn't that the point, you can't go to games over Christmas any more!
Last edited by EalingGreen; 17/10/2024 at 2:47 PM.
Does Chelsea on the 19th count?!
Aye, but isn't that the point, you can't go to games over Christmas any more!
Touché!
Doent feel like it with decorations and awful christmas songs on the 1st of November and it feels like an early Christmas if yer club is picking up the league or cupDon't know the exact figures, but I'm pretty sure that over the last few seasons, Irish League attendances have shown the same growth, percentage-wise, as the LOI. With the same plateau this season, funnily enough.
Aye, but isn't that the point, you can't go to games over Christmas any more!
The correlation between the 2 leagues makes it eve more intriguing. It kinda rules out out individual clubs efforts like Bohs or the build it and they will come like Rovers (being champions helps but that kind of surge can be isolated when there is some drop off in subsequent title winning seasons, stupidly for some the novelty wears off), or association led promo. Were people really that traumatised in to going to LoI/IL post covid?!
Just found the figures for the IL Premership average attendances (12 clubs). After a period of little or no growth, the figures looked to have stagnated at around the 1k mark six seasons ago, before a period of growth, now stalled?
2018/19 - 1,089
2019/20 - 1,192 (+9.5%)
2020/21 - COVID
2021/22 - 1,441 (+20.9%)
2022/23 - 1,588 (+10.2%)
2023/24 - 1,591 (Unchanged. Obviously)
(2024/25 to date: 1,592 - yep, still Unchanged)
With ROI having 5m people versus NI on 2m (40%), on a purely population basis you might expect equivalent LOI PD crowds to average 4k. And that's before you subtract the bottom two teams* from the IL's 12 teams. Plus Derry City, obv.
As against that, the NIFL doesn't release figures for the Championship (2nd tier, also 12 teams), but I'd imagine they're a lot lower than their LOI equivalent, thereby reflecting our own lack of depth?
* - Excluding the Premiership's bottom two teams, Carrick and Loughgall, who also have the division's lowest crowds, the average of the 10 becomes 1,776.
Last edited by EalingGreen; 17/10/2024 at 5:45 PM.
The stats weirdo in me is very thankful for that one person this year keeping the figures in the green
Paaatrick's Agletic
I would estimate 500 for the Longford Town V Cobh game, was some promotion around that bringing more than we've had most of the season.
Dundalk advertising on social media as a 'sold-out' for the Shamrock visit!
What does this actually mean, Rovers have taken up their 5/600 away allocation and the 1,000+ seating in the Main stand is full!
A unofficial 3,000+ attendance!
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