QuoteThe colour blueOriginally Posted by WexCar.
Quite a jump in attendance for Treaty, what do we attribute the increase to?
The colour blue
Paaatrick's Agletic
4,000+ at Bohs v Dundalk on a Monday night, great to see how the league has attracted more fans. Great work by the Bohs support behind the scenes.
I hope the FAI can see that they have a great product on their books and it's not the 'poor child' anymore!
Was the quote not "problem child" which is even more derogatory considering the person that said it was a corrupt crook4,000+ at Bohs v Dundalk on a Monday night, great to see how the league has attracted more fans. Great work by the Bohs support behind the scenes.
I hope the FAI can see that they have a great product on their books and it's not the 'poor child' anymore!
Devine will probably be happy to intervene at Harps after he inevitably gets the shove from Glenntoran.
For the FAI the league was more of a one-night-stand baby.
One they never wanted but still had responsibility for. Which they thought they could largely leave someone else to look after whilst occasionally chucking a few quid towards it to ease their guilty conscience and to get the narky footballing family off their back.
The b@stard child of Irish football
and now its money for jam! Just imagine where we could be if JD had even tried to get others, like the Government, to invest a little over his 20 odd years ripping us off!
A supported league with developed infrastructure = wider net for finding and developing playing talent = a better and higher ranked international side = better FAI finances to line ones pockets with....only a dimwitted idiot that needs to pretends to be a qualified finance person, could miss the opportunity that lay before them and not even risk getting caught by the deluded belief that bankruptcy of a national organisation wouldnt be noticed....
I'd sooner seek help from Pope Nigel
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Is using the term 'to invest in Irish soccer' all the time, really helpful?. I know there are big social benefits for putting money into sport facilities etc, but a lot of people consider financial investment means that you expect/hope to get a financial return on the money you put in. In relation to Irish soccer this is highly unlikely. Look at the rent South Dublin Council have been getting on Tallaght stadium for example. Shamrock R (I think) have been operating at a loss in recent years. The story from LOI clubs recently is build us nice stadiums so we can make more gate money which we can spend on higher players wage. Also btw we also need public money to fund our underage teams.
We need more public money put into sports facilities in Ireland, but conditions much be attached that avoid giving an unfair advantage to certain teams/clubs. Look what the Dublin gaelic football done to the Leinster and All-Ireland competitions. Looks what is happening in Irish horseracing. Leinster rugby, is this what's happening?
Good competition is vital for progress in sport. Once competition is gone, its entertainment you have really.
Nope. They've been running at a fairly healthy profit :
Shamrock Rovers profits shoot to €1.57m in 2022 | Business Post
GAA's problem is that it's an amateur sport where you play for the county you're from. That gives a huge advantage to a county (Dublln) that contains 21% of the island's entire population, and has two and a half times more people than the next biggest county (Antrim - which also happens to have a majority of unionists, who aren't exactly big on the Gah). So Dublin's domiance of GAA is realistically more to do with it having far people than it is money (though obviously more people gennerally means more money/revenue too). I'm convinced that the population imbalance meanns that the competitiveness of Gaelic Football is fecked longer term without serious changes to how it operates.
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Without deviating the thread completely off-topic, while that is true to a certain extent, Monaghan isn't exactly one of the more populous counties, yet its squad have been highly competitive for the best part of a decade at both provincial level and reaching the latter stages of the All-Ireland Championship. By contrast, Meath and Kildare are two of the fastest-growing counties, and were traditional powerhouses in Leinster in the Nineties and 2000s, yet both have completely fallen off the pace, when seemingly well-placed to push on.
Dublin invested in youth development a lot earlier than others and are reaping the rewards. Meath by comparison stood still and only relatively recently opened a centre of excelence (even Louth had Darver years before). There is also an issue in Dublin of a lack of capacity ie clubs and everything they need to utilise overpopulation. So it really is to do with finances and being able to invest in identifying and focusing on elite potential. There is a real fall off in the social aspect of playing GAA. Other counties have closed the gap with Dublin's dominance nationally not a forgone conclusion as it was' Leinster is a different story, no county is anywhere near getting close to Dublin.
On Rovers finances, very health at face value but as with retaining any squad the cost grows, the academy is still being grown and although has made some return there is more to go, the ladies team will factor in and shareholders could decide to take a dividend tough so far that hasnt been the case I think. Rent increases too. Not all cases are the same but in LoI it only takes a year or 2 of internal conflict, a barren period, transition or rebuild etc to need to dip in to reserves. Best laid plans can go askew, eg Cork City foras swore the club would never be financially risked again. Im still a bit reluctant to see current attendances to be more than a current trend rather than LoI making a permanent breakthrough so would still be a folly to budget on x average gates. Euro money will grow over time though. In a nutshell its a never take a last years surplus for granted - it only takes one mad git who isnt answerable to anyone but themselves to send things in to a nosedive, and Rovers arent a totally fan owned club to forever rule out having a dictator director.
Fair points but there is the need for investment in infrastructure that has purely social rather than financial return so 'investment' is fine. That investment should lay the platform to allow sports, for exampe, be as self sufficient as possible - accepting that business competition of sport factors in. Municipal stadia are the basis for many large leagues and clubs to work from. Even Ineos is trying to get government money for Old Trafford redevelopment - not a hope. Im not sure you can legislate for one club or sport taking better advantage of assistance with development - if club are treated equally, then each will different levels of success inevitibly. The 'investment' thats scoffed at or isnt helpful is the Irish Sea FC type that is obviously opportunist and a quick access to the spoils of European football and not seeming to realise that there are plenty of existing clubs that are likely to qualify ahead of a half baked homeless new entity.
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4376 in Richmond, 3159 in Brandywell, 2311 in Galway
584 in Bray
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742 at Mounthawk Park
2,287 in Sligo
Still no updates from either Cobh or Wexford last night.
811 was announced in Cobh
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First * of the season...
Missing Longford v Cork - 20th April
Bohs - 4,300 (4,243 {2023}; 3,209 {2022};2,878{19}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Derry - 3,136 (3,336; 3,184; 2,049; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Drogheda - 2,067 (1,916; 1,941; 721 FD; ; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
Dundalk - 2,362 (2,636; 2,689; 2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Galway - 3,427 (2,018 FD; 2,081 FD; 780 FD; 746 FD; 1,376; 1,169; 1,290; 975 FD)
Pat's - 4,622 (4,232; 3,489; 1,919; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 7,162 (6,109; 5,379; 3,384; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Shels - 4,339 (3,393; 2,913; 1,071 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
Sligo - 3,122 (2,555; 2,166; 1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
Waterford - 3,287 (1,833 FD; 1,705 FD; 1,496; 2,329; 1,550 FD; 314 FD; 460 FD; 470 FD; 478 FD; 453 FD; 466 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 758 (872; 307; 382; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 636 (663; 482; 773; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cobh - 745 (1,020; 872; 268; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Cork - 3,693 (3,666 PD; 3,517; 2,505 PD; 4,245 PD; 4,559 PD; 2,533 PD; 3,263 PD; 3,777 PD; 1,965 PD; 2,786 PD; 2,128)
Harps - 1,345 (1,154; 1,293 PD; 1,154 PD; 708; 1,202 PD; 1,216 PD; 784; 449; 479; 429; 433; 644)
Kerry - 656 (784)
Longford - 696 (679; 500; 610; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Treaty - 2,094 (642; 695)
UCD - 348 (809 PD; 953 PD; 739 PD; 365; 236; 297; 216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD)
Wexford - 795 (689; 445; 235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 3,713 (3,289; 2,687; 2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 1,167 (1,035; 1,193; 586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,440 (2,162; 2,051; 1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 193,098 (592,093; 486,365; 393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 60,670 (186,369; 178,000; 79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 253,768 (778,462; 664,365; 472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
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Precisely 400 at Longford on Saturday.
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