French Quality?

**Karlos** · 01/09/2005, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Just a quick question. In Paris, Where you singing Thierry Henry you're having a laugh. Will you be doin it again on Wednesday if he misses an easy chance. I know a few people that find it hard to give abuse or slagging to players that play for "their" clubs. Not saying you do but just wondering.

Nah, I'll be signing along as I was in Paris where I was also boo-ing Pires. I won't abuse them, but I'll definetly join in any banter of a friendly nature as the Theirry Henry song was in Paris. My fear however is that song might come back to haunt us. I hope it doesn't.

**NeilMcD** · 01/09/2005, 3:09 PM

Well his record at Internatinoal level is pretty similar to Robbie keanes so lets hope they are quaking about Robbie in the same way as some of the people on here are about Henry. We marked him out of the game in Paris so it can be done again.

**Karlos** · 01/09/2005, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Well his record at Internatinoal level is pretty similar to Robbie keanes so lets hope they are quaking about Robbie in the same way as some of the people on here are about Henry. .

I think when Robbie has won two consequtive golden boots and is regarded by the world's International Managers as one of the top 3 players in world football 3 years running they will be.

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

We marked him out of the game in Paris so it can be done again.

Of course it can be done, I'm not denying that. I just don't go along with this poor international, big game and top side record crap that's sprouted out. As someone who watches him on a fairly regualr basis live, I know how good he can be against even better defenders than we have. The postive for us however is that he's not yet fully fit after the injury (or maybe that's an ominous sign as he's got 3 goals already unfit and has had a 10 day rest!

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We'll see very shortly!

BaZmO* · 01/09/2005, 3:19 PM

Originally Posted by KarlosIRL

In Henry I see the current two year running european golden boot winner. I see a player that's scored 29 goals in 71 games for his country.

Robbie Keane
Caps: 61 Goals: 25

Originally Posted by KarlosIRL

You'd need to muliply it by 22 to see the full picture of the fears I have should FRance perform to their best.

IF

B.

**Karlos** · 01/09/2005, 3:26 PM

Originally Posted by BaZmO*

Robbie Keane
Caps: 61 Goals: 25

B.

There's no denying Robbies Record and I've all my hopes for goals pinned on him. He's the best striker we have had and I love him to bits (although the spurs thing still hurts!)

I don't think I am alone however when I don't consider him to be as good an all round player as Theirry Henry. I know for one, Martin jol would agree with me. I don't think a swap deal by Arsene is on the cards either

BaZmO* · 01/09/2005, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by KarlosIRL

I don't think I am alone however when I don't consider him to be as good an all round player as Theirry Henry. I know for one, Martin jol would agree with me. I don't think a swap deal by Arsene is on the cards either

Without doubt, Henry is a better all round player but I was just making the point that Robbie gets as much goals as Henry, that's all.

B.

**Karlos** · 01/09/2005, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by BaZmO*

Without doubt, Henry is a better all round player but I was just making the point that Robbie gets as much goals as Henry, that's all.

B.

Yep and it's a fair point too.

I didn't want to start making comparisons between the two, I was merely using Henry as one example as to why I'm not overly confident. It's not my only reason, it's just one that was easy to use based on the previous post reasons for us to be more positive

**tetsujin1979** · 01/09/2005, 3:55 PM

It just occured to me that the Serie A and Primera Liga season are only after kicking off. With the Irish team all playing in England, they will have a month's lead in fitness terms on the French Spanish and Italian-based players. Could this be a factor later in the game?

**Stuttgart88** · 01/09/2005, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

It just occured to me that the Serie A and Primera Liga season are only after kicking off. With the Irish team all playing in England, they will have a month's lead in fitness terms on the French Spanish and Italian-based players. Could this be a factor later in the game?

Yep, I mentioned that a little while back. I think it could be a factor alright.

**Karlos** · 01/09/2005, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

It just occured to me that the Serie A and Primera Liga season are only after kicking off. With the Irish team all playing in England, they will have a month's lead in fitness terms on the French Spanish and Italian-based players. Could this be a factor later in the game?

Not sure if it will but it'll be a handy excuse for either loser.

i.e. French players have had more time to rest than us or French players aren't fit enough yet and that contributed to the loss to the Irish. Let's hope it's the seconf one!

**eirebhoy** · 01/09/2005, 5:22 PM

Henry rarely produces for France. I honestly don't fear him for France (well, if France had no other decent players it'd be a different case). I may fear Lampard if my favourite club were playing Chelsea but I certainly wouldn't fear him if we were playing England. The simple fact is I've yet to see Lampard have an excellent game for England. Henry has had one or two for France but he is not the same player for France as he is for Arsenal. There's plenty more players to fear than Henry.

**Karlos** · 01/09/2005, 5:30 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Henry rarely produces for France. I honestly don't fear him for France (well, if France had no other decent players it'd be a different case). I may fear Lampard if my favourite club were playing Chelsea but I certainly wouldn't fear him if we were playing England. The simple fact is I've yet to see Lampard have an excellent game for England. Henry has had one or two for France but he is not the same player for France as he is for Arsenal. There's plenty more players to fear than Henry.

I take your point. As i said it was only one example I was using based on a previous post to highlight optimism or lack of. I'll admit though, I am far more worried about the influence of Zidane and Makelele on the tempo and pace of the game than anything else. We must not conceed the first goal.

**mountie** · 01/09/2005, 6:37 PM

karlos....are you also afraid of your shadow? Its A TEAM of eleven against a TEAM of eleven. You can individualise all you want, but the reality is we are capable of winning and thats how I see it going. Our team will not fear these players, they see most of them weekly and will not be bothered by their inflated reputations. Ask yourself what has this French team done during this qualification thats better than us....their's nothin' between them except we are at home and history shows that gives us an advantage. So take a couple of anti depressants. kick back and enjoy the game...

**Karlos** · 07/09/2005, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by mountie

karlos....are you also afraid of your shadow? ..

No it's Theirry right foot I was afraid off and justifiably so. God I hated being right more than ever. He doesn't do it the big games, he's a crap international record etc etc....all came to bite us in the ass 2nite. Theiry Henry your havin a laff ( i bet he is..)

Henry still doesn't look fit, did nothing in the game and then wham, produced a moment of pure football brilliance something that no one in our team can produce for us when we need to pull ourselves into a game.