Elliot or Connolly?

**eirebhoy** · 01/09/2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Donal81

All of the above are fair points but do you not think that Connolly has been given more than enough chances and blown too many of them?

Not really because imo he just can't play with Robbie, it really is as simple as that in my opinion. Sequence of events for Connolly:

Scored 7 goals in his first 15 caps.
Robbie Keane then got capped.
Of Connolly's 25 caps since Keane came along he either partnered Keane and/or came on as a sub in 18-20 of those (I checked this up before and got the figure 18).
The 5 matches I know he started up front without Keane since Keane came along were Sweden, Turkey, Andorra, Cyprus, Turkey. The most recent of those 2 he scored in both.

He started 5-7 matches without Keane as his partner since Keane broke the scene and played well in most of them. So the answer to your question is no.

Originally Posted by Donal81

When was the last time Connolly did that?

The last time he started a game without Keane, got MOTM.

**Donal81** · 01/09/2005, 11:05 AM

Is his inability to play with Keane an unfortunate circumstance or a lack of ability on his part? Keane is always going to start, he knows this, but yet he hasn't adapted to it. I've seen him play brilliantly for Ireland at times but either he learns to play with our all-time top goalscorer who will never be dropped or he learns how to warm the bench.

**eirebhoy** · 01/09/2005, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by Donal81

Is his inability to play with Keane an unfortunate circumstance or a lack of ability on his part? Keane is always going to start, he knows this, but yet he hasn't adapted to it. I've seen him play brilliantly for Ireland at times but either he learns to play with our all-time top goalscorer who will never be dropped or he learns how to warm the bench.

I agree. Still though, Keane is not guaranteed to be fit for every match over the next 4 or 5 years so if Connolly does well in the prem he won't be bad backup. I'm not a fan of Trezeguet and Henry together either. There's plenty of examples in international football.

**superfrank** · 03/09/2005, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by zinedineontour

ffs why cant you stand elliott ? what has he done to annoy you ? quality for sunderland last year and has shown how good he is in the championship ...I will reserve judgement on doyle though good to see him score the other day.. connolly chose not to play for us against greece the little ****e and has had chance after chance .. lets give elliott his chance ...

In the games I've seen him play (Internationals and in the Premiership) he has not done enough to make me think he's good enough to play consistently for us. In those three matches he's missed two brilliant chances and he falls over too easily.

**Dublin12** · 09/09/2005, 2:56 PM

David Connolly is making his debut tomorrow in the premiership,and as mad as it may seem I wish him all the best and I really hope he makes an impact.You never know,he might come good and we(Ireland) might need to call on his services at some stage and it is one department we certainly need to have more strength in and more competition for places.
Good luck David,I hope you can bang in the goals starting tomorrow.

**zinedineontour** · 09/09/2005, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dublin12

David Connolly is making his debut tomorrow in the premiership,and as mad as it may seem I wish him all the best and I really hope he makes an impact.You never know,he might come good and we(Ireland) might need to call on his services at some stage and it is one department we certainly need to have more strength in and more competition for places.
Good luck David,I hope you can bang in the goals starting tomorrow.

doubt it .. prize knob .. wouldnt play in greece when asked .. doubt he will make an impact ...

**Shelsman** · 09/09/2005, 5:06 PM

It seems to me that there is a certain section of fans who will always be against some of our fringe players, and it just happens to be David Connolly at the moment. I've seen him play plenty of games for us where he's done well. There's no disputing his excellent scoring record at any level for Ireland when compared to Elliot. Will all those who knocked Connolly still be on his back if he scores more than Elliot in the premiership this season????

As for Kevin Doyle, it's true that he was/is a City legend as has been very sucessfull for the Ireland U21s but he is COMPLETELY unproven in the Championship, never mind at a higher club level or even full international level. I sincerely hope he does well in his career across the water and would love to see an ex or current eL player in the Ireland squad but it is nuts to be talking about him for full international honours yet when there are better players ahead of him.

**Tram_14** · 09/09/2005, 5:18 PM

I wish David Connolly the best in Wigan, great opportunity for him, but its just that he doesn't combine well with Robbie. Robbie's not going anywhere, so unless Angry Ant learns to play/combine with robbie he won't get a game. Another small guy with robbie is not a good idea, maybe they are just too similar. Elliot offers robbie abit more upfront.

**tetsujin1979** · 09/09/2005, 9:12 PM

I can't believe some people on this board, we have a striker playing (hopefully) regular football in the Premiership, and all they want to do is knock him. With luck these will be the same people calling for him to be included in the squad for Germany after he gets into double figures for he season!

**ccfcgirl** · 09/09/2005, 9:13 PM

Eilot........

**zinedineontour** · 10/09/2005, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I can't believe some people on this board, we have a striker playing (hopefully) regular football in the Premiership, and all they want to do is knock him. With luck these will be the same people calling for him to be included in the squad for Germany after he gets into double figures for he season!

the lad has had his chance ... turned the offer of a cap down when put in the squad for Greece so he can go and **** off the arrogant little **** ... should not be elliot or connolly should be doherty or connolly more like as our worst ever stiker poll !!

**thejollyrodger** · 10/09/2005, 11:24 AM

Doc has to be dropped, he isnt up for the long ball stuff. We need to find a new Nial quinn / stam to bring on if we are going to persist with the long ball stuff.

Ive gotten over the Connolly thing in light of our recent defeat to the France.

Connolly should be invovled in the Irish set up if he can score a few goals for Wigan. Anyone who is playing in the English PL should be allowed to have a go. Look how many times Clint has been allowed to play.

Elliott should be brought on when we need to try something different and so does Connolly. The same applies for anyone else who is 21 or older plays in a decent league and can score goals.

**Tram_14** · 10/09/2005, 2:43 PM

Connolly just Scored!!!

Well Girls & Boys, A large humble pie is now being served, David "the angry ant" Connolly, has just scored his first premiership goal this season, all those concerned please take a slice.... (I'll take the first very small slice). Lets face it, he's another option, we would be limiting ourselves by not including him in the squad. I've officially changed my mind. Forget about the Greece game everyone deserves a second chance.

Choke... spit......lovely humble pie...... mmmmm

So Has Clinton btw!

**FarBeag** · 10/09/2005, 2:43 PM

Connolly has just put one in the net for Wigan and by all accounts he is having a blinder.I say fair Fcuks to the man and i hope he keeps it up,tosser or not.

**Tram_14** · 10/09/2005, 4:11 PM

Emm... Er.. cough... apparently he's having quite a debut.

Of course I would have had him in the Irish team long ago.......

....... I'll just get another pie.............

.......... and after that I'll get my coat.