Season Tickets 2024

[EatYerGreens]

Say New Dalymount was opening next season, 8k capacity, what would Bohs fans think the average gate would be? Is there room for growth in an 8k stadium or is a jump to near capacity very quickly realistic. I know there are years to develop up until a new place is opened but just in the near term - 4-5k would be very solid baseline average. Dublin Derby aside.

I'd bet my house that an 8k stadium will prove too limiting for Bohs within a decade.

[holidaysong]

Will the new Dalymount have expansion capacity?

[RealJohn91]

I'd bet my house that an 8k stadium will prove too limiting for Bohs within a decade.

Maybe but getting an average crowd of 6k let alone 7k or above would be transformational to a club like Bohs so that wouldn't be a bad place to be.

[Nesta99]

I'd bet my house that an 8k stadium will prove too limiting for Bohs within a decade.

Id expect so over a decade of growth, of all things Bohs have shown, pre recent league growth, an ability to build attendances from about 1500 to 3k without winning anything but id be interested in guesstimate, projection, ecpectation of current or near term membership/season tickets and even just matchnight type numbers - if 8k capacity existed near term.

[Shinkicker]

Say New Dalymount was opening next season, 8k capacity, what would Bohs fans think the average gate would be? Is there room for growth in an 8k stadium or is a jump to near capacity very quickly realistic. I know there are years to develop up until a new place is opened but just in the near term - 4-5k would be very solid baseline average. Dublin Derby aside.

Initially they will fill it, people coming out of curiosity to see what they are getting etc and Bohs will out grow it in 10 years, but if there is success in the early years of the new stadium it will be out grown in less than 10yrs. I've said on here before, I hope it has the facility to expand. I still think they should have left the orientation as it is and took the 10k option, but hey who am I, I'm only a humble bottlewasher.

[sbgawa]

Interestingly season ticket sales fell when Rovers built the East stand as people knew there would never be a problem getting tickets. Bohs may see the same thing as sometimes scarcity helps with demand. Fomo.
It's a big jump from 3k to 8k and I expect rovers average attendance this year to be way less then 8k which was the old capacity. Maybe I'm wrong but I think with the odd exception crowds of 6 to 7000 in loi are still pretty strong

[Another Bohemia]

It'll be interesting to see how the 8k capacity works for Bohs. I don't think there is additional room for expansion but you are doubling the current capacity. There will be an uptick initially but holding onto that long term and throughout the season is the challenge. I'm not sure it will take a decade to outgrow it tbh probably closer to two. Sure I don't think Rovers had outgrown Tallaght even before the addition of the new stand and Rovers have been playing there for 14 or 15 years now.

[D24Saint]

I'd bet my house that an 8k stadium will prove too limiting for Bohs within a decade.

The general public laughed at the Richmond Arena plans when the first were revealed. It was said that a LOI ground with 12k capacity was ludicrous. It’s amazing to see how far we have come in only a few short years.

[Buller]

Maybe but getting an average crowd of 6k let alone 7k or above would be transformational to a club like Bohs so that wouldn't be a bad place to be.

You get a taste though and you just want more and more

[LTFC]

Interestingly season ticket sales fell when Rovers built the East stand as people knew there would never be a problem getting tickets. Bohs may see the same thing as sometimes scarcity helps with demand. Fomo.
It's a big jump from 3k to 8k and I expect rovers average attendance this year to be way less then 8k which was the old capacity. Maybe I'm wrong but I think with the odd exception crowds of 6 to 7000 in loi are still pretty strong

Last season Rovers passed 6k average, that rose from 5k+, and 3k+ the previous years, so I'd say club would be delighted to grow a small bit again this year, which a couple of bumper gates will help.

[Nesta99]

Interestingly season ticket sales fell when Rovers built the East stand as people knew there would never be a problem getting tickets. Bohs may see the same thing as sometimes scarcity helps with demand. Fomo.
It's a big jump from 3k to 8k and I expect rovers average attendance this year to be way less then 8k which was the old capacity. Maybe I'm wrong but I think with the odd exception crowds of 6 to 7000 in loi are still pretty strong

This is what Im getting at, I think. FOMO plays a part of things with restricted capacity but in general what is the current actual demand if there wasnt restriction. People buy season tickets and/or membership to avoid the scramble for tickets, if there is no scramble then membership or season teickets can take a hit. People can be more selective with the games they want to see and a club doesnt have lower profile games covered by season tiicket absentees. How much can Bohs grow support over the next 6 (minimum imo) years with a ground caacity of 3k? Maybe there is a golf club style waiting list for membership but that can cause an elitist mentality and a kickback, there have already been rumblings here of unfair allocation of limited tickets. Its certainly not a criticism, its a great place to be working from when a few years ago 1500 was more like the demand. But if Dalymount opened in the early years of the 2030, so 6 years there needs to be roughly 2.5 fold increase in demand to need to look at Dalymount capacity again. That would be unprecedented growth for any club anywhere. I dont think LoI crowds will totally fall back to pre pandemic levels but I dont think we can say that recent demand is bedded in forever either - Rovers title wins will create its own surge that could fall back if not winning the league so its a partial indiator of potential demand at best. If Bohs were able to say that current demand is steady at 5k currently, based on waiting lists or enquiries for weekly tickets then for yes 8k could already be a low capacity figure but if not then the 8k may not be far off what is needed bar the odd bumper gate and that in itself is a good thing again. The ability to expand without undoing a recent redevelopment should be factored in as a no brainer but....

[thebronze14]

Maybe we are hitting the peak attendance wise though. 8k is more than big enough for Bohs imo

[culloty82]

Looking at Kerry's website, all but 70 seats in Kerry's main stand have been sold, which, if accurate, would mean 400+ season tickets sold in all. Of course, in practice, many of the seats in less than ideal areas would have been taken out of circulation by the club themselves, but then terrace season tickets which were bought also have to be added to the mix.

[ger121]

Not season ticket related but would any of the Bohs lads on here know anyone who is looking to sell a Jodi ticket for the rearranged Dundalk game on Monday 15th April.

[LTFC]

Thread bump!

Rovers heading for 3250 ST for next season - last season finished up about 4200.
Any word on how other clubs ST sales are going?

[Nesta99]

I think a few people might be interested in this. Just stuck it in this thread because ticket prices are a significant part of it. But with the FA possibly cracking down on on financial breaches by big hitters, and the possibility of a domino effect down the leagues where losses will eventually come to a head, could this add to the growth in LoI, improved quality with being able to retain players longer as say L2 smaller clubs struggle and generally may seem less attractive. More likely that we will become a focus again for bargain buys and a punt will be taken on even average LoI performers, can this be countered eg working in some way to make sure that transfer fees are not nominal - Premier League clubs collectively insisting on minimum player values, is it even possible, loaded add-on, anything that can off-set being ripped off as per the general norm. We've seen some proper transfer fees happening but still is an area that needs growth, along with seeking TV deal of course. TV revenue is peaking for other leagues but any deal here is growth and there are a lot more TV platforms that could have a go on the cheap (there could be viewership potential outside of Ireland during summer months especially, controversial but if tied to a Boylesports type partnership?). Crowd growth and wider stadium development on the horizon - can we kick on again with the FAI on the above issues that could derail things or can we continue to make hay. Not particularly expecting any answers to the above as they have been well discussed over the years but in the context of the English game due a financial reset below EPL well it could be interesting. If American owners do push ticket prices to hundreds of £ well the GLITW could develop a cult following. Have a watch football nerds..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Slep7QNKE8

[EatYerGreens]

I think a few people might be interested in this. Just stuck it in this thread because ticket prices are a significant part of it. But with the FA possibly cracking down on on financial breaches by big hitters, and the possibility of a domino effect down the leagues where losses will eventually come to a head, could this add to the growth in LoI, improved quality with being able to retain players longer as say L2 smaller clubs struggle and generally may seem less attractive. More likely that we will become a focus again for bargain buys and a punt will be taken on even average LoI performers, can this be countered eg working in some way to make sure that transfer fees are not nominal - Premier League clubs collectively insisting on minimum player values, is it even possible, loaded add-on, anything that can off-set being ripped off as per the general norm. We've seen some proper transfer fees happening but still is an area that needs growth, along with seeking TV deal of course. TV revenue is peaking for other leagues but any deal here is growth and there are a lot more TV platforms that could have a go on the cheap (there could be viewership potential outside of Ireland during summer months especially, controversial but if tied to a Boylesports type partnership?). Crowd growth and wider stadium development on the horizon - can we kick on again with the FAI on the above issues that could derail things or can we continue to make hay. Not particularly expecting any answers to the above as they have been well discussed over the years but in the context of the English game due a financial reset below EPL well it could be interesting. If American owners do push ticket prices to hundreds of £ well the GLITW could develop a cult following. Have a watch football nerds..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Slep7QNKE8

I was at a National League South game in England before Christmas. The agreed league-wide ticket price there for adults is £18. That's for Level 6 in England, and a standard that I can assure you is nowhere near the LOI PD.

I was at a Hamilton Academical game a couple of months ago - Tier 2 in Scotland, and a fairly unglamorous club - and it was £20 for adults. Dunfermline Athletic (also Tier 2) is £22-24, depending on what stand you go for. Kelty Hearts - Tier 3 Scotland, and an exceedingly unglamorous club in a small village who were non-league forever until a couple of years ago - is £16 for adults.

So I think our pricing in the LOI is about right. The prices they charge over in Britain are just shocking really, at all levels

[Nesta99]

I was at a National League South game in England before Christmas. The agreed league-wide ticket price there for adults is £18. That's for Level 6 in England, and a standard that I can assure you is nowhere near the LOI PD.

I was at a Hamilton Academical game a couple of months ago - Tier 2 in Scotland, and a fairly unglamorous club - and it was £20 for adults. Dunfermline Athletic (also Tier 2) is £22-24, depending on what stand you go for. Kelty Hearts - Tier 3 Scotland, and an exceedingly unglamorous club in a small village who were non-league forever until a couple of years ago - is £16 for adults.

So I think our pricing in the LOI is about right. The prices they charge over in Britain are just shocking really, at all levels

Were you scouting players for Dundalk by any chance....

[EatYerGreens]

Were you scouting players for Dundalk by any chance....

I couldn't possibly comment

[outspoken]

Aye I went to Alloa v Falkirk a few years back and it was a ridiculous price in for sh*te football on a sh*te astro.