from watching the rte commentary on the last few games i think johnny giles really rates mcshane , as a player and as a fellow hard man !
I think that's the one.Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
from watching the rte commentary on the last few games i think johnny giles really rates mcshane , as a player and as a fellow hard man !
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
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Sunderlandbohs, there was a crucial game late in the 2004/5 season (Ipswich away?) where Sunderland were 2-1 down late on. Do you remember?
I remember it well. I was at it! He came on for Chris Brown along with Brian Deane. He also had a hand in the 2nd for Robinson if I'm not mistaken. He scored 2 crackers against newcastle & man utd if anyone can remember. The lad has still got a lot to offer.
Had a great chance in that game towards the end when lobbed Given but hit the cross bar. Reports in Sunderland suggest McShane could be a Sunderland player by Monday. Thats the word among the locals. Kevin Moran was in one of the morning papers saying if he moves McShane will become a key player for Ireland for many years to come.
I remember that, I was disappointed he didn't score. I think he also had a great chance of a second against Man U, but Van Der Saar blocked a shot from close range, or maybe he put it just wide, on the turn.
In the Italy friendly he made space for himself brilliantly, losing his marker and placing a half-volley across the goal which was well saved by Buffon. Lesser keepers would have been beaten. His goal in Cyprus looked easy enough but that turn and half volley was actually technically very difficult. Again, many would have fluffed it or failed to connect.
Midgets can do well in the Championship where their pace will win out. In the Premiership and other top league they come up against equally pacey defenders and that leaves them where if they don't have the physique or extra special technical ability?
Back to the Championship I am afraid like Connolly and others.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I accept all your points, but Elliott did OK in the Premiership at the start. Michael Owen, Defoe, Keane all do OK. Elliott has great positioning. Whether that's enough I don't know.
Continuing to digress from McShane: Celtic on verge of signing top scorer in UEFA U21 Championships for £400k. Nugent, with no goals (?) in same tornament, is £6 million.
Elliot had fantastic potential but missed two seasons of development at a crucial stage,Whether this seriously hinders his progress remains to be seen.
Shame because he is talented.I would be a little hesitant in going ott about McShane.He has a lot of attributes but it could take a couple of years for him
to find his worth.
Lampard didn't get any goals for England in the WC, would you call him ****?
I would, but for a whole lot of other reasons than not scoring in the World Cup
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Actually I wouldn't call him **** but I would call him severely over-rated and (at best) a luxury for most teams
Also Lampard isnt a striker. but has proven that he can score goals when placed in the riight situations
I wouldn't call him a striker.
Looks like McShane is heading to Wearside
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/...name_page.html
More here in today's Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...op-892782.html
Could be a double bonus if Foley's move to WBA comes through
Some more on that here: http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/fron...?newsid=169197
Could make sense if McShane does move to Sunderland, he plays right back for WBA, so there'll be an opening in defence.
Much less likely now, I'd say. There was a report on Wednesday that Keane had lost patience with WBA for messing him around over McShane and Robinson.
Now it looks as if he's turned to Chris Baird:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/6278052.stm
It's possible that he wants Baird to play right back instead of Robinson, since Chris has played there several times (he can even fill in as defensive midfield holding player, if need be).
However, his natural position is centre back, where he was Saints POTY last season.
baird looks a very solid player , will be a pity if mcshane is not playing premiership this season.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
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