Hard to call on that one, it was Mowbray's first game in charge, so he hasn't really had time to get to know the players. Give it another 2-3 games and see if he starts to get his place back then
Whats going on there, surely a player who can play
really well against a good international side, merits a
place on a championship team!!
There's no point in changing a winning team. If he didn't get suspended I'd say he'd be in the team.
Curtis Davis is a young English CB who had rave reviews last season when they were in the Premiership and is valued at (typically for a young English player) well over £5 million. Arsenal were charged £8 million by WBA when they came looking.
Chris Perry, ex of Spurs, is their other CB, and has just the type of experience a promotion chasing team should have.
Davis will probably be sold before too long and Perry isn't exactly one for the future. Davis missed most of September through injury and McShane deputised, sometimes playing well but not always.
Mowbray has a reputation for developing & trusting young players so McShane's time will come I'm sure.
Considering Mowbrays history with young talent, I'd say he's going to be a good thing for McShane.
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Some people here seem to think that McShane has been playing week in week out for West Brom. They say that its good for the National team that a guy playing regular football is getting into the squad. The fact is that McShane has only played seven times this season ( two of these as a sub ).
McShane was has not commanded a first team place at any stage this season.
Curtis Davies got injured at the start of September and McShane took his place in the team. He played in the following 6 games but got sent off. Davies took his place in the team for the next game and West Brom won the following 3 games. McShane played against Arsenal tonight so we'll see if he stays in the team but chances are the manager will go back to the team that was doing well. He isn't going to drop Davies or Perry while they're doing so well.Originally Posted by Darco Ooragnak
btw, McShane has never come off the bench for West Brom. All his league appearances were consecutive starts aswell as starting all 3 League cup games.
Not trying to rip McShane but Aladiere beat him on the wing which led to the penalty shot, which Aladiere banged home.
Mistakes like that won't help his chances to secure a starting spot.
There isn't a player alive who hasn't made mistakes or been taught a lesson by someone. All part of the learning curve.
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Aliadiere is widely considered to be one of the most talented forwards at Arsenal but injury has hampered his progress. McShane isn't the first defender to come unstuck against him and certainly wont be the last.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
As I said lads, not trying to rip him. Just pointing out to the thread starter that McShane isn't the finished article just yet.
In other words, just because he had a fantastic debut with Ireland, doesn't mean his spot should be secure for either club or country.
I think he will be a great player, but he should be considered a work in progress at the moment.
good point irish.
mcShane had a superb debut and deserves all acolades he has got since. however, we have seen many false dawns and shouldn't get carried away with it just yet.
but he definately deserves his place in the starting 11 next time out - espically because we are playing san marino (ie another cap and should be relatively hassle free) and his main competition is andy o'brien who is playing even less with his club
I agree, McShane should be in the starting 11 against San Marino.
He deserves it and is probably the best option.
Some guys instantly take to international football despite being ordinary for their club. Kenny Cunningham was one who I was always confident in.
Even Andy O'Brien (until Cyprus!). I thought O'Brien was excellent in Basle, Stuttgart & other games.
Dare I say it but I thought Gary Breen got a bum steer from many Irish fans.
Oh no doubt some players take to the international game Stutts.
I'd say passion is more important at the international level than skill or tactics, and you can really see that passion in McShane.
Sure organization is always important, but I really doubt the ability of any manager to make a complicated, effective strategy and educate the players within the span of under a week.
Motivation and desire, along with wise team selection are more important at international level, while at club level, tactics and skill really play more of an important role over a long season.
Obviously you don't eliminate desire from the club game, or tactics from the international game, but the importance of these two factors is not equal in every game.
the majority of us have only seen him play the once. his club see him day in day out - maybe he's not consistent enough for a regular spot. we can judge if they are right or not when he has a few more international games under his belt.
I saw him at U21 level & he excelled against the Swiss at Tolka. My Brighton supporting mate really rates him. But yes, he has made errors for WBA so it's all work in progress still.
Passion is important but no way is it more important than skill. If that was the case half of us would have legitimate claims to be picked.
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Within reason man, use your head.
If you've got a Premiership player with little or no passion, sit him for a Championship player with bucketloads of passion.
Off the top of my head, I'd pick McShane over O'****e for center back.
Aye fair enough, just say "within reason" the next time then
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