Great move, Keane has always shown a keen interest in and being impressed by McShane from the time he arrived as a trainee at Old Trafford.Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
The eleven-a-side article does not mention a fee being agreed yet.
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/acrosst...p?newsid=28201
Great move, Keane has always shown a keen interest in and being impressed by McShane from the time he arrived as a trainee at Old Trafford.
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great move for him and for us... hell have a chane to really establish himself
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Been inpressed by him at centre back with Ireland. Type of player we love up here in the North East. He gives 100% & rarely does anything wrong. Does anyone know the fee? Also heard Keane has made a bd for Stephen Carr.
I met Robbie Keane 2 years ago & told him McShane was good. He'd never heard of him!
From http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...rd-798096.html
And Keane's green-fingered dealings won't stop there as the former Irish international is pursuing Newcastle's unsettled full-back Stephen Carr as he looks to assemble a squad at the Stadium of Light capable of prospering in the top flight.
I've heard the Carr story is a journo make up but could be wrong. The player I believe Keane is switching his intentions to is Kevin Doyle. Thats only if Nugent decides to stay on at Preston and wait for Everton to come in for him. Lita is "only" being offered 20 grand a week. So Doyle must be on something close to that figure. I'm sure sunderland can better that.
Regarding Nugent, and Elliott going to WBA:
Last season David Nugent scored 15 goals in the Championship & was credited with 5 assists from 42 starts, 1 sub appearance.
In 2004/5 Stephen Elliott scored 16 goals in the Championship & was credited with 5 assists from 29 starts & 13 sub apperances.
Why is one worth £6 million, the other £1 million?
cos that was last season and elliot has been injured on and off for 2 seasons?!?!
or are you alluding to the english thing again stuts, i dont think it can be in this case....
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I agree! When Sleeves is fully fit he's top class. The reason one worth £6m & the other is worth £1m is because one is English the other isn't. If Keane is to pay big money on a forward I'd rather it was Doyle. Doyle is only valued at £8m. That's a bargain for proven prem striker!
I'm not blind to Elliott's injury record, but I think if a young English lad did what Elliott did 2 years ago Premiership clubs would pay an arm and a leg for him.
I'd like to hear what the Sunderland watchers (the old ones like Zinedine) think of Elliott. I saw him once last year - at Loftus Road against QPR - and he worked his socks off out of position on the right & was arguably Sunderland's best player, behind Leadbitter anyway.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 27/06/2007 at 4:20 PM.
Elliott wasn't our best player last year. I can think of at least 6 players who were better. But the previous 2 season was by far our best player along with Deano. Even this season when he was fit he showed he good he was. Chipping in with a few vital goals. But that's the lads problem. He can never get a run of games because he always seems to pick up injuries to often.
ANother problem is that he is a midget. Not too many major vertically challenged forwards succeed (Maradona apart) at the top level.
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True! Over looked that part!
The reason is that he is injury prone and hasn't been playing regular football recently.
That's the main. I haven't gone away from that. My point is when Elliott is fully fit he is just as good as Nugent. Either is worth £6m, far from it. But if Sleeves can get fit & stay injury free he can be a bargain at £1m. Any this is Paul McShane's thread not Elliott's.
A midget who scored 16 goals in 29 starts in his first season, many of them crucial, not the 4th or 5th goal in facile wins.
Those 16 goals included goals of all types, distance, poachers' tap ins, headers, 1-on-1s, the lot. In fact he may be a shortarse but he can head a ball. Robbie take note.
Sunderlandbohs, there was a crucial game late in the 2004/5 season (Ipswich away?) where Sunderland were 2-1 down late on. Do you remember?
A rightsided midfielder sent a deep ball to the back post to Deane (I think). I was watching Elliott, he sprinted 25 yards to the other post. Lo & behold Deane headed the ball into space across the goal where Elliott headed it in to equalise. They went on to win. That was pure goalscorer's instinct. It looked like a tap in but there was far more to it than that.
If fit & if trusted, he'll score goals for anyone. I'll post FIFA's description of him after UAE 2003 again if anyone wants.eirebhoy had Richie Patridge & I'll be singing Elliott's praise for a long time to come.
Last edited by Stuttgart88; 27/06/2007 at 8:58 PM.
Was it this game - http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=450008
Finished 2-2, Ipswich went 1-0 up, only for Elliott to equalise minutes later. Robinson then put them 2-1 up, and Darren Bent equalised late on for Ipswich
I agree that neither is worth £6m. Nugent's price has gone up because a number of clubs are after him.
The last time I saw Elliott play he was the best player on the pitch. Against Southampton. Think he went off injured at half time though.
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