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    Quote Originally Posted by DCSIL View Post
    Grim result for Derry.

    The other Northern sides not doing much better, watched Caernafon beat Crusaders and Linfield 2-0 down to Starjnan(sp)

    Hopefully Shels hold on
    Corrected that there for you ;-)

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    Shels settled for the 2-1 from early out and tbf weren’t really troubled,they’ll be happy enough with the win but I suppose it’ll only be known after next week weather it’s a a good result….
    Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.

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    local derby that? Shels (Drumcondra) v Joeys (Fairview)
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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    How can Higgins stay on, they are in a title race as much on squad ability as how they are coached and youd have no confidence of them not blowing a gift wrapped league again. Results can go against you in Europe and it may be harsh but it would be the excuse an owner needed to change management. If that sme Derry squad were managed by SK in Europe and many were, would we be looking at the same outcome? I dont think so myself!

    Any thinking on LoI fans being deluded on standards just have to look t our ranking relative to teams we are playing, if they are ranked below then they are bad results, if above then it is par for the course and didnt play above our level. We will be dropping to our level over a few years anyway if early round points continue not to be taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    local derby that? Shels (Drumcondra) v Joeys (Fairview)
    Joey 2 - Joeys 1

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    Galway Utd will raise the coefficient next year

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    Bert Kassies has already pushed the button to update the aul coefficients...

    We ended last year in 35th, and started this year 33rd (because 2019/20 was a poor year - Cork lost to Niederkorn, Dundalk beat Riga on penalties but were easily beaten by Slovan and Qarabag, Pat's lost to Norrkoping and Rovers had Bradley's only good European result in beating Brann, but they lost to Apollon after extra time then).

    We're still 33rd at present - though Kosovo in 32nd have extended the gap out to 0.541 and to be honest I don't see us increasing any this year. This was the year the FAI were targetting the LoI to be 30th in Europe, but with results like this week's, we'll be falling a few places by the end of the summer.

    0.375 is our score so far - bettered by eight leagues below us. Still too early to read too much into that though. The second legs will tell more - we'll see if we even get a second round, and the Champions League teams are important as they get multiple rounds (and a much bigger chance at group stage games).

    Looking only at this year and last year, we're 41st in the rankings - feels like we should be much worse than that to be honest, but again this year has only just begun.

    Belarus are second last in the rankings, amazingly - it's only nine years since BATE Borisov got five points in a Champions League group including Roma, Barcelona and Leverkusen. Today's results see Gibraltar jump ahead of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Bert Kassies has already pushed the button to update the aul coefficients...

    We ended last year in 35th, and started this year 33rd (because 2019/20 was a poor year - Cork lost to Niederkorn, Dundalk beat Riga on penalties but were easily beaten by Slovan and Qarabag, Pat's lost to Norrkoping and Rovers had Bradley's only good European result in beating Brann, but they lost to Apollon after extra time then).

    We're still 33rd at present - though Kosovo in 32nd have extended the gap out to 0.541 and to be honest I don't see us increasing any this year. This was the year the FAI were targetting the LoI to be 30th in Europe, but with results like this week's, we'll be falling a few places by the end of the summer.

    0.375 is our score so far - bettered by eight leagues below us. Still too early to read too much into that though. The second legs will tell more - we'll see if we even get a second round, and the Champions League teams are important as they get multiple rounds (and a much bigger chance at group stage games).

    Looking only at this year and last year, we're 41st in the rankings - feels like we should be much worse than that to be honest, but again this year has only just begun.

    Belarus are second last in the rankings, amazingly - it's only nine years since BATE Borisov got five points in a Champions League group including Roma, Barcelona and Leverkusen. Today's results see Gibraltar jump ahead of them.
    2 wins and a draw or 1 win and 2 draws is not beyond the realms of possibility next week tbf, however many teams we get through is another question

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    And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!

    There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.

    Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.

    One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.

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    Despite Shelbourne's win - that was two damned poor results against the opposition - these teams are equivalent to tier 8/9 of the English pyramid (that is where some of the better players have played).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!

    There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.

    Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.

    One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.
    Oh yeah, I don't expect anyone to get through Round two if they make it except for giving Pat's a shot v Vaduz, aside from Rovers of course, they could be bombed out by round 3 or make the groups, so much comes down to next week and of course the draws once they drop down.

    I do think any flavour of Shels win is good, first time back in Europe in forever, and against what I assumed would be by far the better of the two Gibraltar clubs. Absolutely no idea what went on with Derry, I decided to save my tenners this week I definitely wouldn't count them out of a home win, couldn't say if they could do enough to bring it to ET thou, maybe Bruno's have improved a lot now that they've been in Europe a few years in a row.

    Given what happened last year, I also think the Rovers result should be considered positive conditionally, I think they'll do it at home, but I know understandably many others are not so confident.
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    What is the potential difference in prize money for Rovers next week between winning and losing if anybody has an idea?
    Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!

    There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.

    Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.

    One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.
    With our form this season I’d be happy to travel being one goal down in the tie. Hopefully we can be competitive but I don’t expect much.

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    That was an infuriating game against a horrible team full of gowls.

    Absolutely hateful bunch. The antics with the "stolen" throw-in from a fake injury in the second half nearly sent the whole of the stadium into the river.

    We were much the better side and Coote and Wood made such a difference late on.

    Gannon was completely off the boil for whatever reason and hopefully he'll be back to his usual self next week.

    Anyway, we won. That's all we can ask for right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    3-2! Some turnaround.
    Heat - 35C,
    the Macedonians were dreadful, but more heat tolerant.

    I also watched Linfield v Stjarnan (perhaps I have flagellation tendencies) Linfield were dreadful, the Rory Gallagher song came to mind, "Brute Force and Ignorance". No consolation considering the travails in the LOI, but the Nordie league is stone age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    What is the potential difference in prize money for Rovers next week between winning and losing if anybody has an idea?
    Difference of €790,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    With our form this season I’d be happy to travel being one goal down in the tie. Hopefully we can be competitive but I don’t expect much.
    Id tend to agree, I’d take a 1 goal defeat in the first leg to keep the tie alive when travelling over. Having said that, with 1 away win all year it’s an even more unlikely task to overcome
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    Attendance: 3655 Seating in Richmond Road and Riverside stands only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    LOI Clubs in Europe 2024

    Stadium Seating Capacity

    Shels, Tolka Park 4,300
    St. Pats, Richmond Park 2,800
    Derry, Brandywell Stadium 3,300
    Shamrocks, Tallaght Stadium 10,000

    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Tolka having 4,300 seats minus the terracing sounds wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Hi 2 Year Contract,

    The The Richmond Road Stand or Main Stand has a capacity of over 1,800 seats while the opposite Riverside Stand has approximately 2,500 seating capacity since damaged seating has been repaired.
    Total seating capacity so is approximately 4,300 at present.

    Hope this helps and explains.
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    Attendance: 3655 Seating in Richmond Road and Riverside stands only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    That was an infuriating game against a horrible team full of gowls.

    Absolutely hateful bunch. The antics with the "stolen" throw-in from a fake injury in the second half nearly sent the whole of the stadium into the river.

    We were much the better side and Coote and Wood made such a difference late on.

    Gannon was completely off the boil for whatever reason and hopefully he'll be back to his usual self next week.

    Anyway, we won. That's all we can ask for right now.
    Good to see you posting Bonnie - hope you are well!

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