Quote2022 "Dundalk FC appoint SO'D as next Dundalk manager"......while still under contract at St Pats. Its been dog eat dog for a while.Originally Posted by oriel
Reminder, Nov 2018 'St Patricks Ath FC fully support SK to be the next Ireland manager' .................(while still under contract at Dundalk)
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), only Irish club to win a game / points in Europa League Group Stage (2016).
2022 "Dundalk FC appoint SO'D as next Dundalk manager"......while still under contract at St Pats. Its been dog eat dog for a while.
Ah but you see he wasn't, he only verbally agreed to stay another year, wonder where that court case ever went to.
Anyway Dundalk v Pats re-fixed for Thurs 5th Sept, hopefully Pats won't be too exhausted after their trip to Turkey and their home league game v Drogs on Sun 1st Sept to grace us with their presence and travel 1 hour up the m1.
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), only Irish club to win a game / points in Europa League Group Stage (2016).
That hasn’t been established, so you can’t make that statement definitively. As far as I know the court case is still ongoing. At least I haven’t read of any settlement. I sincerely doubt Pats took it to Court without legal advice telling them that they had at least an arguable case.
Anyway, I understand that Dundalk are ****ed off , but spare us the righteous indignation please, and don’t pretend your club would not have looked for a postponement in the same circumstances.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Seems to have gone very quiet on the court case, I`d say its gone away, anyway I`m sure SOD is not very worried !
I'll spare you nothing, the game should be going ahead tomorrow, or the decision to move it away from 25th should have been agreed over a week ago, and not just before 5pm yesterday (46 hours before KO) on the basis on SK and Pats going back to the FAI on Friday am after your (admittedly excellent) result.
Very poorly managed by all involved.
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), only Irish club to win a game / points in Europa League Group Stage (2016).
We should be quits after yous poached our manger the day after the cup final.
Given how that played out we're probably in debt to them now if anything.
Jack, D24 and all other Pats on here, as much as I was totally annoyed at the handling of the league game re-fixed (you might have guessed), I harbour no grudges really, more banter than anything else.
I want all Irish clubs to do well in Europe, granted it will push you to 3m earnings, and you'll be out of sight from well over half the league, but these windfalls don't come by chance, they are hard earned, and if you do make it (I still give you 20-30%) chance, but its still a chance, I hope you put the money to better use than we did,.
2016 group stages only paid massive bonus's, new pitch, Louth CC (robbers) planning levies (500k) for the YDC, fully kitting out the YDC, new gym, new cinema room, players changing rooms, players canteen, new club offices, paid all debt, 3 or 4 charter flights and 2 more league titles and 1 cup.
The 2020 group stage to be fair to P6 - they left over 2m in the club accounts, even after wasting so much money on unheard of players, some were on 2 or 3k a week, then enter StatSports led group who simply ran the 2m or so down, didn't put a cent in, so all gone, all wasted, and no spectator improvements to show for it, apart from state of the art YDC for the players.
If you make it guys, and good luck if you do, spend in wisely.
Last edited by oriel; 25/08/2024 at 5:31 PM.
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I think we all get your frustration. What I was pushing back against was the notion that somehow Pats and Stephen Kenny were somehow uniquely “moaning” and looking for the game to be called off (and yeah, it should have been done way earlier. I think every club and manager would have been saying the same thing in this situation. I’m sure if Jon Daly was still our manager he would have been saying it. Now he’s with Dundalk, so he’s looking after his team, and that’s totally to be expected.
Anyway, hoping for an upset on Wednesday. Probably not likely, but you never know. Maybe they have gears that they didn’t go up to last week. If not, and it’s a similar game, we have every chance. Of course it’s just as likely that they do raise their game at home, and will be too good for us, which their pedigree would suggest.
On possible future earnings, I would trust Garrett Kelleher more than the owners that Dundalk had previously. He’s been with us since 2008 and has pumped serious amounts of his own money in to the club, without seeing any huge return. It would be a great reward for him, as well as the players, managers and supporters.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
As much as I'm jesting above, my real thoughts are earlier in the thread which is that the way the FAI handled it was a joke and unfair to all involved, especially Dundalk. Given the fact that much better leagues than ours such as Turkey postpone their sides games in the same circumstances, I really don't see any reason that we shouldn't do the same given the LOI could do with all the help it can get, but the point being that this is decided well in advance and not less than 48 hours before kick off.
I think Kenny and Co were well within their rights to moan about it mind, even if that shouldn't have mattered in the end. The FAI's statement came across as saying that the only reason they changed their mind was that Pats were still in the tie, i.e. they weren't anticipating it so didn't bother to postpone it earlier, which is preposterous really. Despite how it ended between him and the club I like Jon Daly a lot and he'll have no doubt had a lot of preparation gone to complete waste off the back of this in what is a difficult situation for him and Dundalk.
Common sense prevailed in the most non-sensical way possible which is typical FAI, but in typical LOI fashion you lot will no doubt beat us something like 4-0 in the rearranged game and make all of this obsolete anyway.
So, today’s the day. Could be a massive day in Pats history. Nervous and excited. I’d have to say I’m hopeful rather than optimistic, which I’d imagine is the general mood. Let’s just not give them anything easy.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Palmer being out is a big loss, but Leavy was pretty great when he came on to replace him. Very brave and carrying the ball through the middle. I imagine this would be just about the biggest upset in LOI history if Pat's pulled it off, so I'm not expecting much, but they've gotten this far, so I'm looking forward to watching it. I'll give them my tenner
As for Rovers tomorrow, I could see them nicking a draw against a rotated PAOK team just trying to avoid getting injured, you'd take that.
Yeah, hard to give Pats much more than a 10% chance of qualification this evening but those chances have about doubled from last week in my eyes anyway.
It's great occasion though and kind of has the feeling of Rovers Vs Belgrade about it. Away in the second leg to a big side but the tie being there to be won.
Hoping Pats plaster themselves on the front pages tomorrow with something special
I think Belgrade is at the same level. However, back then the glass ceiling had not been broken.Palmer being out is a big loss, but Leavy was pretty great when he came on to replace him. Very brave and carrying the ball through the middle. I imagine this would be just about the biggest upset in LOI history if Pat's pulled it off, so I'm not expecting much, but they've gotten this far, so I'm looking forward to watching it. I'll give them my tenner
As for Rovers tomorrow, I could see them nicking a draw against a rotated PAOK team just trying to avoid getting injured, you'd take that.
Someone else said this games has a feeling of Belgrade about it. I’ve been thinking that since the 1st leg. Can Pat’s do it, unlikely but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. Kenny and that team are made for Europe.
Can't see us managing it later, which there's no shame in. Palmer is such a huge loss for this kind of game, he looks after the ball so well but is also a freakishly good tackler for a player that plays in an advanced midfield role, so he always gives you the possibility of being able to turn the ball over and make something of nothing. I'm not a huge fan of Leavy, although I can appreciate he has his strengths. Just think he's more effective off the bench really and a game like this will pass him by if he started. Would probably rather have Bolger come in and Forrester move up into Palmer's position but would imagine that won't happen.
In any case I'm looking forward to it and hope we just give a good account of ourselves and see what happens. The European run has been a real bright spark in an otherwise underwhelming season.
The heat will be a big factor too, Shels and Derry would have seen that this summer in Gibraltar, but not sure it was as hot (maybe it was) as the game I was at in July 2023, Magpies v Dundalk, 33c at 5pm kick off. I looked up Istanbul and it will be a little cooler, but still be 26c at 7pm local time for kick off.
I'd give them 20% chance of making it, its still a chance mind, and better to be in it at this level of course. Paddy Power have a mental price on it, Basak are 1/9 just to win in 90 mins, but 1/33 to qualify for the next round ! Pats are 14/1 to win and 8/1 to qualify. Not sure I`d agree with those odds, but there you go.
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The weather isn’t too hot tbh. It is warm of course but not searing. We have a free shot tonight with nothing to lose. Let’s see how it goes.
That’s a good call on Bolger I think. I’ve been impressed with him and think he’s been a bit unlucky not to play more. Him and Lennon together would make us more solid in the centre you’d imagine, leaving Chris a bit more freedom. I am a fan of Leavy, terrific carrier of the ball which gives us a different way of getting up the pitch, but as you say, he might be more effective coming off the bench.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Right. .. about to pop out for the cans.
Where can I watch this online ?
Ah. Solid sports again
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