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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Bohemia View Post
    From what I have heard the only reason they turned it down was they needed cover for Lopes when he goes to AFCON. How true that is is up for debate but from a Bohs perspective after adding Cornwall and potentially signing Carroll it could end up being a blessing in disguise as both would probably be on similar wages to Haore if not a bit less and would come or came with no transfer fee.
    AFCON finishes before the start of the LOI season so that’s not really up for debate at all
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    He's 4th choice in a team that plays 3 at a time. One injury away from being a guaranteed starter and Pico always struggles a bit after international duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ontheotherhand View Post
    He's 4th choice in a team that plays 3 at a time. One injury away from being a guaranteed starter and Pico always struggles a bit after international duty.
    That's not the point that was made regarding the reason rovers turned the bid down. Yes he’s 4th choice and is 1 injury away from being a starter, sure any of the 3 could get injured in pre-season and he’d be in the team. Needing ‘cover’ for when Lopes goes to AFCON for the next 3 weeks or so isn’t ‘the only reason rovers turned it down’, is the point I was making
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    AFCON finishes before the start of the LOI season so that’s not really up for debate at all
    It finishes what a week before the league kicks off? Lopes could have missed most of, if not all of preseason and given the way international tournaments are played & the possible need for a break post tournament for him it's not out of the realms of possibility that was the reason given. Especially since he could pick up an injury on international duty. That's why I think it's a valid but debatable reason. More likely is Rovers simply don't want to let any player go to Bohs if they can help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    That's not the point that was made regarding the reason rovers turned the bid down. Yes he’s 4th choice and is 1 injury away from being a starter, sure any of the 3 could get injured in pre-season and he’d be in the team. Needing ‘cover’ for when Lopes goes to AFCON for the next 3 weeks or so isn’t ‘the only reason rovers turned it down’, is the point I was making
    Wasn't really replying to your directly. There's a few posts about it. There's multiple reasons we wouldn't sell him. Pico going to the AFCON is definitely one but only because Hoare is next in line whenever any of our CBs are out or struggling. Not very complicated and there's no wild ulterior motive as some seem to be suggesting.

    I'd imagine Sean will leave next season and I won't blame him. He's good enough to start elsewhere but we have the 3 best CBs in the league ahead of him. Honorable mentions to Redmond and Connolly when fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ontheotherhand View Post
    Wasn't really replying to your directly. There's a few posts about it. There's multiple reasons we wouldn't sell him. Pico going to the AFCON is definitely one but only because Hoare is next in line whenever any of our CBs are out or struggling. Not very complicated and there's no wild ulterior motive as some seem to be suggesting.

    I'd imagine Sean will leave next season and I won't blame him. He's good enough to start elsewhere but we have the 3 best CBs in the league ahead of him. Honorable mentions to Redmond and Connolly when fit.
    With Josh Honohan signed , Hoare could end up as our 5th choice centre half , so surprised we turned down €50k ( if true). Then again maybe Bradley is making sure we have cover in case we go through a spate of red cards like we did at start of last season !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    With Josh Honohan signed , Hoare could end up as our 5th choice centre half , so surprised we turned down €50k ( if true). Then again maybe Bradley is making sure we have cover in case we go through a spate of red cards like we did at start of last season !!
    At the moment Honohan is also covering wingback as far as I can tell! We play 5 defenders and have 8 on the books. They'll all play even without Sean Grant weighing in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ontheotherhand View Post
    Wasn't really replying to your directly. There's a few posts about it. There's multiple reasons we wouldn't sell him. Pico going to the AFCON is definitely one but only because Hoare is next in line whenever any of our CBs are out or struggling. Not very complicated and there's no wild ulterior motive as some seem to be suggesting.

    I'd imagine Sean will leave next season and I won't blame him. He's good enough to start elsewhere but we have the 3 best CBs in the league ahead of him. Honorable mentions to Redmond and Connolly when fit.
    i would'nt swap Redmond for any of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Bohemia View Post
    It finishes what a week before the league kicks off? Lopes could have missed most of, if not all of preseason and given the way international tournaments are played & the possible need for a break post tournament for him it's not out of the realms of possibility that was the reason given. Especially since he could pick up an injury on international duty. That's why I think it's a valid but debatable reason. More likely is Rovers simply don't want to let any player go to Bohs if they can help it.
    The final of it does yeah, but he plays for Cape Verde and is in a group with Ghana and Egypt so it’s far more likely that their tournament will last 8 days from game 1 to game 3. If you’re going with the ‘what if’ logic then it might be worth Bohs bringing in a replacement for the Estonian striker they just signed in case Estonia progress through the playoffs and all the way to the final of the euros
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    Former pats centre back Noah Lewis has signed for Perugia in Serie C, who’s goalkeeper is Alessio Abibi, so I can only assume they’re now some sort of refuge for LOI rejects
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    The final of it does yeah, but he plays for Cape Verde and is in a group with Ghana and Egypt so it’s far more likely that their tournament will last 8 days from game 1 to game 3. If you’re going with the ‘what if’ logic then it might be worth Bohs bringing in a replacement for the Estonian striker they just signed in case Estonia progress through the playoffs and all the way to the final of the euros
    Bohs should bring in a backup striker because they only have 1 senior striker on the books and injuries, suspension and the general unknown of the Estonians quality means you may need a backup? I get what your saying it's unlikely that Lopes will play more than 3 games but strange things happen in international tournaments all the time. Fatigue from travel and games in a short period of time is almost guaranteed and Lopes likely missing some of preseason if not all of it. Better to keep players who you know and know your system than leaving yourself in the lurch because you thought "sure it'll be grand Lopes will be home in a week and it's 50k so let's take it".

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    Hoare is a fairly mediocre player really. He's ok. He could be replaced easily enough for less than that €50k plus his wages. But fair enough if Rovers can't be bothered for the relatively small profit.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    The final of it does yeah, but he plays for Cape Verde and is in a group with Ghana and Egypt so it’s far more likely that their tournament will last 8 days from game 1 to game 3. If you’re going with the ‘what if’ logic then it might be worth Bohs bringing in a replacement for the Estonian striker they just signed in case Estonia progress through the playoffs and all the way to the final of the euros
    Can qualify by finishing 3rd and being the 4 best of the rest aswell,they did that in the last AFCON Tournament…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Former pats centre back Noah Lewis has signed for Perugia in Serie C, who’s goalkeeper is Alessio Abibi, so I can only assume they’re now some sort of refuge for LOI rejects
    Former Harps man Kos Sadiki is in that league aswell playing for Entella ….,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Of Aherlow View Post
    i would'nt swap Redmond for any of them
    You'd be saying the same about our 3 if you had any of them!

    He's excellent though. The only CB in the league I'd take at the moment. Connolly is very good as well but seems to be struggling to stay fit.

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    Waterford in for Tommy Lonergan…
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    Waterford in for Tommy Lonergan…
    Has he not signed for Bohs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC_GUFC View Post
    Has he not signed for Bohs?
    No, Bohs want him but pats are looking for €60k for him. The €50k bid they made for Sean Hoare probably strengthens pats hand on that one, knowing that Bohs were willing to fork out that money for a player. Yes there’s the obvious positional difference between Hoare and Lonergan but if anything strikers are even harder to come by at the moment than centre backs.

    This article says that Waterford's bid is a ‘substantial’ one so I’d say it’s close enough to matching it by the sounds

    https://waterford-news.ie/2024/01/11...iting-striker/
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