QuoteCork manager making sure there's no need for a guard of honour next season anyway.
Well done wahhherfudd, a decent addition to the next season's Premier division.
Commiserations to Cork, if the squad stays together over the close season, you should be able to bounce straight back. Whatever about the away support tonight, you'd expect them to bring a sizeable cohort to Mounthawk Park next year, could make for some friendly rivalry in 2024!
Cork manager making sure there's no need for a guard of honour next season anyway.
Well done wahhherfudd, a decent addition to the next season's Premier division.
Great game to watch for the neutral, loads of chances for both sides. Congrats to Waterford, they edged it for me performance wise and deserved the win
Paaatrick's Agletic
Disappointing to lose Cork as an away day and Waterford will be tough to beat under Long next season.
Feels a complete waste of a season for Cork. Finally put it together last year and could have had a good thing going, but have flattered to deceive all season and it's all just felt a bit haphazard with the manager situation as well. Compounded now by not only relegation but the fans seemed to turn on the players on more than one occasion, including tonight. You'd imagine they'll come right back up but not sure the vibes will be particularly great.
Congrats to Waterford. They've good potential about them but only seem to put it together in moments. Will be interesting to see how they go about things.
I don't think so. They were looked like a first division standard team tonight despite the dodgy penalty decision, they were really bad in all 4 games I saw them against Shels this seasonOriginally Posted by culloty82
I said it before here this Cork team of 2023 looked barely distinguishable or any improvement on their 2020 team that finished bottom they were lucky they had a dreadful UCD team this season propping them up off the bottom
Like with Shels after our play-off relegation 3 years ago they will need to sign about a dozen quality players to go straight back up, if Usher isn't going to put more money in or stop signing crap there is no guarantee they are coming back up
The Leinster Senior League needs a strong Bohemians
The way Cork left the management side of the club after Healy departed was bizarre, they deserved what they got for that alone, Usher fairly obviously hasn't a clue what he's at....
Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.
Absolute madness to think that considering their struggles all season that it’s 6 months since they’ve had a permanent manager. Some seriously inept running of a club in trouble
Paaatrick's Agletic
4,032 attendance is disappointing indeed.
Thoroughly enjoyable game though. Congrats to Waterford and commiserations to Cork
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Very happy for Long.
The tighter ground ie Richmond for the playoff proves to be right. The people didn’t travel.
After 36 games in the First Division and playing each team 4 times, 2nd should be at home versus 5th and 3rd at home versus 4th in one legged semi-finals. Whichever playoff finalist has finished higher in the league should have home advantage in the playoff final. Reward for finishing higher in the First Division.
The promotion-relegation playoff then should be over two legs as the First Division playoff winner and 9th in the Premier Division haven't played in the regular season.
Example from this year:
FIRST DIVISION PLAYOFF SEMI-FINALS
Waterford v Athlone, Waterford with home advantage.
Cobh v Wexford, Cobh with home advantage.
FIRST DIVISION PLAYOFF FINAL
Waterford v Cobh, Waterford with home advantage.
PROMOTION-RELEGATION PLAYOFF
First leg: Waterford v Cork
Second leg: Cork v Waterford
The Premier Division club have previously earned the higher league ranking, seems fair to give them home advantage in the second leg or else have a draw to determine home team for the second leg.
We've finally managed to win this fixture after so many defeats, great to be back in the Premier League next season!
People being disappointed with the attendance is strange to me, it was a Friday night fixture lads! I'd of been there if it was on today!
People within an earshot of Dublin don’t seem to be able to grasp this. I’m aware that empty vessels make the most noise, so apologies to those of you that do understand. You need to plan away games if they are few hours away. Time off is usually required.
Definitely the people within an earshot of Dublin..
I just expected the attendance above 5k, pushing 6k. It's not like waterford and cork are a million miles from Dublin requiring a full day off work. They're both pretty handy connected on motorways.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Plenty of exiles in Dublin to help with the crowd let's not forget. Not all Cork/Waterford fans live in Cork/Waterford.
Waterford away for me on a Friday would be a car journey straight after work, making ko handy enough.
Cork I’d usually take a half day, leave at about 230.
It being on telly probably didn't help the attendance. Also the same weekend as the cup final will deter neutrals who are going to the final. I might have gone along as a neutral a different weekend.
If the game last night was in Waterford with a second leg in Cork on Monday night, I don't think being the weekend of the cup final or being on tv would be hindering big crowds, if not two sell outs.
Nothing new for Cork, we played in Turners Cross after being crowned champions and there was no guard of honour, I thought then it was JC being petty and lacked class and I felt the same v Rovers this season. It was mentioned on commentary that its a recent thing but I certainly remember Dundalk applauding champions on to the pitch pre game and being applauded on by opponents in the 80's. Its not a huge thing, its informal, but in an era where respect and sportmanship is often lacking I just thing its the right thing to do and more so when it involves old rivals and those in a tight title race. It sets an example for certain kind of fans.
I think I was a penalty, it was soft and was 'won'. I dislike this growing trend of people talking about winning penalties, they are awarded or given and should not be won by checking a run or manufacturing contact. Its an evolution of diving, started pre VAR and when VAR is available there is no poit in diving - in an ideal world 'winning' penalties should stop irrespective of contact. I think it was a penalty more for the attemt to get an arm over the shoulder and pull back than from the nudge caused by checking the run. I suppose Cork did win a league title with significant contribution for Seanie Maguires ability to win penalties. It was debated here at the time and Cork fans felt it was a fair part of the game, a type of player skillset. Alls fair in war and football.
A lot can happen in a close season but Cork currently are not necessarily equiped to make an immediate return to the top flight. Play-off for sure but top spot? There will be sides that have that bit more guile and UCD as promotion specialists! Cork are a club that should not be in this position but it dates back to one boards decision to capitulate to Caulfields budgetary demands and its been a struggle since. Revisionist history of CCFC will show that he did as much harm as good to his club.
Next season Premier Division will be a nailbiter outside a top 3 or 4 with a number of clubs potentially at risk of a relegation battle with no club looking like obvious basement dwellers to save any mediocrity above.
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