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    Came on for last 25 minutes of match vs Crystal Palace. His marker (Guehi) beat him to the ball for the second goal. Seemed to be playing as a wingback and then as a right fullback near the end.

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    Made his first Premier League appearance in a while for Leicester, coming on as a sub in their latest beating. I think that now makes him the Irish player with the most ever Premier League appearances for Leicester, although that isn't a particularly high bar to clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Made his first Premier League appearance in a while for Leicester, coming on as a sub in their latest beating. I think that now makes him the Irish player with the most ever Premier League appearances for Leicester, although that isn't a particularly high bar to clear.
    He's still behind Jonny Evans and Neil Lennon, to name two off the top of my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    He's still behind Jonny Evans and Neil Lennon, to name two off the top of my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    He's still behind Jonny Evans and Neil Lennon, to name two off the top of my head.
    Gerry Taggart as well I'm sure, but I was meaning Ireland players, not the north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Gerry Taggart as well I'm sure, but I was meaning Ireland players, not the north.
    Not "the north" of where then?

    P.S. You originally said "Irish" btw.

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    Ealing, you've made your point. Cut out the dog and pony show.
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    Get back to your own patch EG

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    Given we're in the Ireland forum talking about the Ireland team I would have said it was fairly clear what Irish meant. If I wanted to include players who played for the north I would have specified that.

    On a similar note the team branding on FAI socials is interesting these days. You very rarely see the word Republic in use of late. A quick search on Twitter shows that the last use of "Republic of Ireland" in the text of an FA Ireland or Ireland Football account tweet was last year. Squad announcements are always issued as Ireland. It seems to be a conscious decision and is great to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Given we're in the Ireland forum talking about the Ireland team I would have said it was fairly clear what Irish meant. If I wanted to include players who played for the north I would have specified that.

    On a similar note the team branding on FAI socials is interesting these days. You very rarely see the word Republic in use of late. A quick search on Twitter shows that the last use of "Republic of Ireland" in the text of an FA Ireland or Ireland Football account tweet was last year. Squad announcements are always issued as Ireland. It seems to be a conscious decision and is great to see.
    So are you going to tell Gerry Taggart or Neil Lennon that they aren't "Irish" then?

    I'd pay good money to see that!

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    You've already been told to knock it off EG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    So are you going to tell Gerry Taggart or Neil Lennon that they aren't "Irish" then?

    I'd pay good money to see that!

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    They didn't play for Ireland, so in the context of international football (which this discussion and forum relates to) they're not, no. I'm not passing any comment on their wider sense of nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Made his first Premier League appearance in a while for Leicester, coming on as a sub in their latest beating. I think that now makes him the Irish player with the most ever Premier League appearances for Leicester, although that isn't a particularly high bar to clear.
    In terms of Republic of Ireland international players, it actually depends on whether you include the Premier league appearance he made a few years ago when he was still an English player. If not, then his twelve games this season bring him level with Brian Carey.

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    I've been down that path, and it'll drive you nuts. Do Callum Robinson's appearances before his declaration for Ireland count as being by an Irish player? Or David McGoldrick? Or Clinton Morrison?
    What about players who have changed allegiances from the national side? Do their appearances before changing count as being by an Irish player, even though they're currently lining out for another country?
    If you really want to drive yourself demented, consider the scenario where someone played for Ireland at underage level, then appeared in a friendly for another country, and then went back playing for Ireland? Which of their senior club appearances count?

    In the end, the only way I could agree on was that, once a player's international alignment is with the national team, then all their appearances count as being Irish. If that changes, then those appearances are invalid.

    This actually came up recently while I was researching a stat. Recent U21 call up Jack Moorhouse was named as a substitute for Manchester United against Arsenal and Spurs. If he had come on in either game, would it count as an appearance by an Irish player, given that both games were before his U21 call up, and his only involvement with the national side before that was an U19 training camp? If it does count, then is the last Irish player to appear for United before him Will Keane, who played in an FA Cup game against Shrewsbury in February 2016, while still an English player, or Robbie Brady who made a single appearance for United in the League Cup in September 2012?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post

    In the end, the only way I could agree on was that, once a player's international alignment is with the national team, then all their appearances count as being Irish. If that changes, then those appearances are invalid.
    That's how I would count it too - based on the last nation they end up with if they switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I've been down that path, and it'll drive you nuts. Do Callum Robinson's appearances before his declaration for Ireland count as being by an Irish player? Or David McGoldrick? Or Clinton Morrison?
    What about players who have changed allegiances from the national side? Do their appearances before changing count as being by an Irish player, even though they're currently lining out for another country?
    If you really want to drive yourself demented, consider the scenario where someone played for Ireland at underage level, then appeared in a friendly for another country, and then went back playing for Ireland? Which of their senior club appearances count?

    In the end, the only way I could agree on was that, once a player's international alignment is with the national team, then all their appearances count as being Irish. If that changes, then those appearances are invalid.

    This actually came up recently while I was researching a stat. Recent U21 call up Jack Moorhouse was named as a substitute for Manchester United against Arsenal and Spurs. If he had come on in either game, would it count as an appearance by an Irish player, given that both games were before his U21 call up, and his only involvement with the national side before that was an U19 training camp? If it does count, then is the last Irish player to appear for United before him Will Keane, who played in an FA Cup game against Shrewsbury in February 2016, while still an English player, or Robbie Brady who made a single appearance for United in the League Cup in September 2012?
    Don"t worry, Tets, I won't go mad thinking about it! It only came up when I was checking for Republic of Ireland players who might have played more Premier league games for Leicester than McAteer and found that Carey played exactly the same number of times as McAteer has this season, which I thought was a cool coincidence, only to find that McAteer played one game a few seasons ago, before he switched.

    So I'm sure McAteer will break the record for EPL appearances by an Irish International soon - although based on the fact that he has only played 390 minutes in those 12 appearances, it's still possible that Carey might still hold the record for most Premier league football played for Leicester by an Irish International

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    I see Leicester used a 15 year old winger off the bench at the weekend, McAteer not in the matchday squad. Is he injured, or was the 15 year old preferred to him?

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    He's not injured. Van Nistelrooy has accepted they're toast this season, and is looking at some kids. Possibly he's considering the options in the event of a fire sale, but they also have a couple of pretty good teenagers who they might as well assess now as in games they'll need to win next year.
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