Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

**Jolly Red Giant** · 22/04/2024, 5:20 PM

Originally Posted by John83

We have to look at the positives. If Carsley had taken the job on the FAI's terms, he'd have had to move to Ireland, exacerbating the housing crisis. Really, this is a good thing for the country.

Outside of your tongue-in-cheek comment - Carsley was never going to move to Ireland (assuming that was one of the conditions of the job) - one of his kids has down syndrome and the Carsleys' have a settled settled family life in Warwickshire - moving to Ireland would be far too disruptive and a non-runner.

**Jolly Red Giant** · 22/04/2024, 5:21 PM

At this stage they should seriously consider begging Chris Hughton (or someone with a similar record) to take the job - at the very least, he has experience of dealing with an FA that is a bigger shambles than the FAI and he would stabilise the ship for the next couple of years.

**EalingGreen** · 22/04/2024, 6:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

Outside of your tongue-in-cheek comment - Carsley was never going to move to Ireland (assuming that was one of the conditions of the job) - one of his kids has down syndrome and the Carsleys' have a settled settled family life in Warwickshire - moving to Ireland would be far too disruptive and a non-runner.

That was the reason he turned down the manager's job at Brentford nearly 9 years ago - more than he could commit to 24/7. Meaning he went to a lower pressure job with The FA at St.George's Park, close to his family home.

However his lad is now an adult, meaning LC can commit more heavily to his career. Which is not to say he would still go the whole hog and relocate, but maybe his reluctance to take the ROI job was more to do with having his own back-up team and budget etc? Or is it known that the jobholder definitely has to live in ROI?

**zero** · 22/04/2024, 9:34 PM

are you ruling yourself out EG?

**EalingGreen** · 22/04/2024, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by zero

are you ruling yourself out EG?

Absolutely not. In fact, in the spirit of (life long Blade) Neil Warnock's interest in managing Sheffield Wednesday, I've just put in my application:

**zero** · 22/04/2024, 10:35 PM

you'd probably still have better results than our last manager.

**JR89** · 24/04/2024, 9:23 AM

Unless he's reporting old news then this would be the third time we spoke with him. The news reporting this morning too that Hudson has left his job in Qatar.

**Jolly Red Giant** · 24/04/2024, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by JR89

Unless he's reporting old news then this would be the third time we spoke with him. The news reporting this morning too that Hudson has left his job in Qatar.

You could see why Hudson would be an option for Canham - while manager of New Zealand, Hudson was also responsible for overseeing the underage sides.

Now - he doesn't have much of a record as a manager, his best stint was probably assistant with the USA from 2021-2023. But the fact that he was out of contract this month could be used by the FAI as 'look - this is the guy we wanted all along'.

I would be a bit meh with the appointment.

**JR89** · 24/04/2024, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

You could see why Hudson would be an option for Canham - while manager of New Zealand, Hudson was also responsible for overseeing the underage sides.

Now - he doesn't have much of a record as a manager, his best stint was probably assistant with the USA from 2021-2023. But the fact that he was out of contract this month could be used by the FAI as 'look - this is the guy we wanted all along'.

I would be a bit meh with the appointment.

Yeah think it would be a very Stephen Kenny type appointment. Would put him in a similar bracket to O'Shea if O'Shea got the job.

While Hudson has better experience than O'Shea as a coach he absolutely bombed big time when he took over as manager at Colorado.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 24/04/2024, 11:50 AM

Hudson certainly something of a left-field option. Not great at Newport. Seems to have done alright with Bahrain, and with New Zealand. Colorado tenure looks rather disastrous. Better then as part of the US set-up. Hard to know what to make of him, other than he seems to do better at international level than club. But a job like Ireland would be very different to the likes of New Zealand and the US, both big fish in small ponds (talent of competition wise). I'd rate him over O'Shea, but I don't think it's credible to say there aren't better options available out there somewhere.

**Fixer82** · 25/04/2024, 8:36 PM

It might be good though to have someone come in with absolutely no connection to the team or the country, much like Big Jack back in 1986.
Someone who has no favourites within the Irish game or ideas about the Irish game or its players.

**pineapple stu** · 25/04/2024, 8:59 PM

It might be good though to have someone come

I'll settle for that at this stage tbh

**elatedscum** · 26/04/2024, 9:35 AM

JOSH confirmed for June

**weldoninhio** · 26/04/2024, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by elatedscum

JOSH confirmed for June

Absolute farce.

**JR89** · 26/04/2024, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by elatedscum

JOSH confirmed for June

With no Kerr involved. Now people gotta listen to him talk **** on the telly.

**backstothewall** · 26/04/2024, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Hudson certainly something of a left-field option. Not great at Newport. Seems to have done alright with Bahrain, and with New Zealand. Colorado tenure looks rather disastrous. Better then as part of the US set-up. Hard to know what to make of him, other than he seems to do better at international level than club. But a job like Ireland would be very different to the likes of New Zealand and the US, both big fish in small ponds (talent of competition wise). I'd rate him over O'Shea, but I don't think it's credible to say there aren't better options available out there somewhere.

If we're resorting to looking at managers at this level the current Newport County manager is Irish and seems to be doing a decent job there. I don't see what Hudson has got going for him that Graham Coughlan doesn't?

**NeverFeltBetter** · 26/04/2024, 11:12 AM

International experience? As limited as it might have been at Bahrain and New Zealand (I'd rank higher his work within the US set-up, especially now as they push hard to be credible co-hosts). Being such a different environment to the club game, a back catalogue in that regard is nothing to be sniffed at.

**backstothewall** · 26/04/2024, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

International experience? As limited as it might have been at Bahrain and New Zealand (I'd rank higher his work within the US set-up, especially now as they push hard to be credible co-hosts). Being such a different environment to the club game, a back catalogue in that regard is nothing to be sniffed at.

I mean his record with New Zealand was lousy.

Lost to Uzbekistan
Lost to Thailand
Drew with Myanmar
Needed penalties against Papua New Guinea
Drew with New Caledonia
Lost to Northern Ireland
Drew with Solomon Islands.

It's not great looking on paper. If we're taking a chance like this I think I'd rather gamble on the Irish guy tbh.

**EalingGreen** · 26/04/2024, 3:39 PM

Originally Posted by backstothewall

Lost to Uzbekistan
Lost to Thailand
Drew with Myanmar
Needed penalties against Papua New Guinea
Drew with New Caledonia
Lost to Northern Ireland
Drew with Solomon Islands.

Oi! Don't be so disrespectful!

New Caledonia are no mugs...