Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

Originally Posted by Eirambler

It's not intended as vitriol, just an assessment of the situation. O'Shea isn't qualified to do this job, he has been part of a number of unsuccessful coaching setups over the last few years, in addition to showing nothing of note in his games as interim manager.

If he ends up in the job he will be seen now as the appointment of last resort, there's no other way of looking at it. That will weaken his position from day one. Yet he seems happy to sit tight and hope the FAI fail spectacularly enough that he ends up getting the gig.

He should walk away now and earn the appointment in future through actually achieving some coaching success of note.

It's not an assessment, it's a character assassination. You've created a ridiculous scenario with O'Shea cast as some conniving Uriah Heep lurking in the shadows. Well, he's not. You have no way of knowing he'd be a last-resort appointment - and even if that were the case he should be judged on results and not jaundiced preconceptions.

With our budget and our mess of an association we are not going to attract any manager that doesn't come with some baggage, a spotty record, past best before date or is unproven. Whoever is announced and whenever is likely to be imperfect and grossly underwhelming to the masses. At that point, it becomes a matter of who is the best of that bad bunch. I think O'Shea is bottom of that list - fluffed audition, no experience and I think would be not much better than having retained SK. Bruce, Lennon probably next worst. Even Carsley is largely unproven although seems a decent gamble. Andersson and Sagnol would be intriguing, have potential and would get bums in seats.

What is the salary they are offering?

Originally Posted by Snapshot

It's not an assessment, it's a character assassination. You've created a ridiculous scenario with O'Shea cast as some conniving Uriah Heep lurking in the shadows. Well, he's not. You have no way of knowing he'd be a last-resort appointment - and even if that were the case he should be judged on results and not jaundiced preconceptions.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one I think. My view is that his position as set out in his quotes at the UEFA thing yesterday further reinforce the views I stated. You clearly feel otherwise, fair enough.

Originally Posted by Crosby87

What is the salary they are offering?

Obviously the exact details haven't been released, but the suggestion seems to be that it's been upped to somewhere in the region of €700k to €750k per year. Obviously less than what most if not all managers in the Championship would be on, but on the other hand it's a much less intensive role.

Originally Posted by weldoninhio

All leagues will be over in May, so that managerial merry-go-round will also be in full flow. There will be lots of candidates looking for a new job.

The Premiership has had unusually few sackings mid-season this year, so the summer might well be a bloodbath. It could make it harder for the FAI to pitch with a lot of better jobs open, or it might mean there's a decent manager at a low point. I'm sure an ambitious CEO would be all over it anyway.

Oh.

Originally Posted by Crosby87

What is the salary they are offering?

€550k p.a. basic I think.

A lot of reports I'm reading state that Chris Hughton has got the job.

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

A lot of reports I'm reading state that Chris Hughton has got the job.

Does anybody else even half decent want it ?

Not having a go at Chris Hughton there.

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

A lot of reports I'm reading state that Chris Hughton has got the job.

Where did you see that?

Id be delighted tbh

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Like so many others, the question is whether Hughton could be bothered with it for the salary involved.

Money has never been a motivation for Hughton - he was the lowest paid manager in the PL when at Brighton.

Originally Posted by Diggs246

Where did you see that?

Id be delighted tbh

The Indo has had a couple of pieces in the last day, that Hughton has been approached again. I think if he turns it down they'll go to O'Shea.

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

The Indo has had a couple of pieces in the last day, that Hughton has been approached again. I think if he turns it down they'll go to O'Shea.

The only thing that would stop Hughton taking the job would be if he feels he needs more time after finishing with Ghana. But I suspect that the Ireland job is the one job he would really like a shot at before he retired.

Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

The only thing that would stop Hughton taking the job would be if he feels he needs more time after finishing with Ghana. But I suspect that the Ireland job is the one job he would really like a shot at before he retired.

Would he be any good do you think ?
Would you favour him ?

Originally Posted by JR89

Robbie Keane would be a big PR disaster if they hired him straight from Israel so they won't touch him.

I think we are well past caring about PR look. The guy is about to win a league title and seems to be the best young Irish manager out there

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I think we are well past caring about PR look. The guy is about to win a league title and seems to be the best young Irish manager out there

We talking about Duff?

Originally Posted by ontheotherhand

We talking about Duff?

I'd take Duff or Robbie in a heartbeat now.

Honestly I'm disillusioned with everything. I genuinely thought they were running a professional recruitment process. This week has shown that its worse than the Delaney days. Canceling the board meeting tonight is beyond belief. Absolutely believe that all Government funding should stop immediately until we get some answers from them of what the hell has gone on here. Has Canham just been conning everyone? What about Paul Cookes oversight? So many questions need answers

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I'd take Duff or Robbie in a heartbeat now.

Honestly I'm disillusioned with everything. I genuinely thought they were running a professional recruitment process. This week has shown that its worse than the Delaney days. Canceling the board meeting tonight is beyond belief. Absolutely believe that all Government funding should stop immediately until we get some answers from them of what the hell has gone on here. Has Canham just been conning everyone? What about Paul Cookes oversight? So many questions need answers

They are all conning everyone. I'd imagine anyone with a shred of integrity left during the Delaney years. I'd love to think there are a few good people in there working for the right reasons but there's been very little evidence of that. Scanlon comes across OK, if a bit naive. But whenever I hear anyone else there talk I feel like I'm being sold a lemon.

Nice summary from the Examiner here - https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41375971.html

We really are back at Square One. It could yet be O'Shea because there's no-one else - yet it surprises me Keane, who is in club management and doing reasonably ok - has barely been mentioned at all. Some experience > no experience I'd have thought.

Hughton mentioned as taking a break at the moment. Could be seeing what happens in the summer when the club merry -go-round gets underway.

O'Shea not overly keen on interim in June either, so we might need an interim interim manager

Edit - the Indo is reporting we're making a fresh speech approach to Hughton.

But lots of stuff has been reported to date and most of it hasn't happened so...

I think Robbie is not being talked about because the FAI know the ****storm that would kick-off politically, at a time when it seems the government is flying a kite on recognising Palestine. We've already had TD's criticising him for taking that job, but giving him the national team would really set way more off, and there would be calls to boycott the side before too long. The identity of our national team manager, and not just the hiring process, would become a topic for committees that have power over pursestrings. And that in turn would create conditions for "political interference" claims or however you want to call what FIFA selectively enforces. It doesn't surprise me at all that the FAI is just refusing to countenance that: they've already, seemingly, told Lennon where to go for his issues, and possibly Sagnol too.

This, from Gavin Cooney today, is fantastic

https://www.the42.ie/fai-managerial-...56205-Apr2024/