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    I'd also be very disappointed with Lennon.
    You can't spell failure without FAI

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldoninhio View Post
    I think it'll be Lennon now. Decent enough choice.
    I think he is an abysmal choice and shows where we are at in international football.

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    What salary is Kieran McKenna on at Ipswich, probably more than the FAI could offer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by culloty82 View Post
    What salary is Kieran McKenna on at Ipswich, probably more than the FAI could offer?
    Would he want the job ?

    It could actually damage his club ( jobs) ambitions.

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    McKenna's miles out of our league, both in terms of reputation and affordability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culloty82 View Post
    What salary is Kieran McKenna on at Ipswich, probably more than the FAI could offer?
    Ipswich upgraded his deal in the summer to reportedly the 1.5 million basic region plus bonuses, which with them being in the automatic mix for double promotion to the promised land of football, you'd imagine those bonuses are being maxed. There is also a four million buy out clause for him.

    He was never in this conversation and to be mentioning him now, well, its just silly.

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    While we are throwing out every possible idea....I'd just suggest, again, folding the team for 3-5 years. Would FIFA allow us to just raise the white flag until Ferguson and a few others are ready? We'd save a bit of money and could start fresh with a new FAI.

    Or give it to Lennon. Same difference.

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    Lennon is a bit like the embarrassing backup car that they used to have in the Top Gear specials. A kind of break glass in case of emergency option that everyone hopes won't be needed. But it seems like we're getting worryingly close to it now. Personally I'd have assigned that role to Allardyce out of the various less appealing options out there if it came to it. Certainly not Lennon.

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    By any measure Hughton is a much better option than Lennon, and it isn't close.
    Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Absolutely zero chance lee carsley gets the English job
    The FA deal in 100s of millions in sponsorship deals. They have to have a house hold name in the hot seat
    Was Steve McClaren a "household name" when appointed? Roy Hodgson?

    Capello and Sven-Goren were both "name" managers who ultimately failed, Hoddle too. While being a "name" AND a success didn't save Venables

    In any case Southgate was hardly a "name" when appointed either, but has been kept on because he's been successful, relatively speaking at least.

    In the end, winning matches does far more for the "brand" (ugh) than a slick PR machine, tabloid headlines or a gift for soundbites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Sickening if this is true. There's no other candidate that I'd even be reasonably ok with at this point. Hughton, Lennon or Roy will make me vomit
    The only one who would make me vomit is Lennon

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Won't Lennon's " personal history " just blow up in the media if he gets the job ~ Why would the FAI do this to itself ?
    His personal history should blow up if he gets the job - the the FAI should be dragged over the coals before hand to make sure it doesn't happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Was Steve McClaren a "household name" when appointed? Roy Hodgson?

    Capello and Sven-Goren were both "name" managers who ultimately failed, Hoddle too. While being a "name" AND a success didn't save Venables

    In any case Southgate was hardly a "name" when appointed either, but has been kept on because he's been successful, relatively speaking at least.

    In the end, winning matches does far more for the "brand" (ugh) than a slick PR machine, tabloid headlines or a gift for soundbites.
    Hoddle was a reasonably successful England manager until he came up with some mad stuff about disabled people ~ ~ Goes to show, you can be a good football manager and still have some crazy stuff going on in your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Was Steve McClaren a "household name" when appointed? Roy Hodgson?

    Capello and Sven-Goren were both "name" managers who ultimately failed, Hoddle too. While being a "name" AND a success didn't save Venables

    In any case Southgate was hardly a "name" when appointed either, but has been kept on because he's been successful, relatively speaking at least.

    In the end, winning matches does far more for the "brand" (ugh) than a slick PR machine, tabloid headlines or a gift for soundbites.
    I would say that both McClaren and Roy Hodgson would he household names in the football side of most households.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Was Steve McClaren a "household name" when appointed? Roy Hodgson?

    Capello and Sven-Goren were both "name" managers who ultimately failed, Hoddle too. While being a "name" AND a success didn't save Venables

    In any case Southgate was hardly a "name" when appointed either, but has been kept on because he's been successful, relatively speaking at least.

    In the end, winning matches does far more for the "brand" (ugh) than a slick PR machine, tabloid headlines or a gift for soundbites.
    They were both household names?

    Including Roy Hodgson in that is just weird man!!
    My mum would know him.

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    Also re Southgate apart from Alf Ramsey who has done better !

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    Appointing Lennon would be act of deliberate self-harm. It would be an act of utter insanity that I didn't even imagine the FAI were capable of.

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    Sky Sports now reporting they 'understand' Carsley has turned down the job to stay put. If so, he has taken the Rice road, possibly worse than Rice. Can't wish him any luck at all going forward. At this stage I'd take Duff and his hard to beat siege mentality approach. He's as much if not more experience than Carsley, and an Irish footballing icon, that players will look up to.

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    Yep
    I'd say he is gone
    The fai Strick again
    The fai don't deserve us lads

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post
    Sky Sports now reporting they 'understand' Carsley has turned down the job to stay put. If so, he has taken the Rice road, possibly worse than Rice. Can't wish him any luck at all going forward. At this stage I'd take Duff and his hard to beat siege mentality approach. He's as much if not more experience than Carsley, and an Irish footballing icon, that players will look up to.
    Man turns down job = he's a turncoat. Cop on will ya.

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