He's being linked with the Sunderland role also and would prefer that to the Stoke position. According to Philip Quinn anyway so make of that what you want..
Dean Smith was tipped for the job and he went off to Charlotte FC instead.Originally Posted by JR89
Now - if Carsley did take the job and got Stoke back into the PL - that would go a long way to proving he knows what he is doing.
He's being linked with the Sunderland role also and would prefer that to the Stoke position. According to Philip Quinn anyway so make of that what you want..
If he took the job and got Stoke back to the PL, nevermind proving he knows what he is doing, he'd have the pick of any coaching role in Europe! Pep/Klopp etc wouldn't be capable of getting them back in the PL.
Stoke City is owned by Denise Coates, owner of Bet365 - she's worth about €6billion.
Tony Fernandes(QPR) is worth 15billion, an American trio worth 11billion own Ipswich. Bristol City, W.Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, Blackburn etc all have billionaires as owners. That gimp Elon Musk could own Stoke, they aren't getting anywhere near the PL anytime soon.
Derry City are owned by a billionaire, doesn't mean they're about to win anything major.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
This.
They're a basket case club and will be a basket case club for years to come.
Isn't it funny how Carsley is suddenly being linked with clubs now when he never was before. The timing is too coincidental. My personal belief is he wants the Ireland job and these "links" are a play by his agent to force the FAI into making a decision.
Its really not that complicated!!!
Went from 25/1 in to 3/1 in places today, can still be got at 12s in others for the Stoke job.
I can't see him there either though.
My preference is still Hughton - but I would be okay with seeing what Carsley would be able to do.
It is possible that the FAI are waiting to see what happens with Hughton - they would probably have to pay compensation for Carsley because he is under contract.
Carsley is only in contract till August and actually think the FA would let Carsley leave early without much hassle. They've two qualifiers in March and then none till September.
If he actually wants the Ireland job don't think it does the FA any good to make him see out his contract if they play hard ball about compensation.
Would it be very FAI if they ended up appointing Carsley when he was linked to the job for months and them having told us all that they are speaking to lots of candidates and I would bet even going so far as to leak the approach to Anthony Barry in the midst of the Hill pay saga as a distraction?
Fair enough - run a "process" with the intention of looking a more professional organization but be careful regarding time wasting.
We will see in due course whether it does end up being Carsley as I am hoping. Wouldn't be displeased with Hughton either and those are the two names which have hung around the most and longest in the discourse surrounding the role I think.
Its been reported several times in different outlets that the FA won't stand in the way if him taking a senior role with us. Haven't seen anything official from them and obviously wouldn't expect to but I'd say you're right re not getting much hassle from them if he decides to leave before his contract ends.
Objectively. I’m not sure that Carsley is all that more promising than Kenny was when he got annointed. I think he represents a similar gamble.
Nah - Kenny had very little track record - he was always fortunate with the LOI teams he ended up with, despite what is a good record in the LOI. Once he stepped outside his comfort zone everything fell apart (as shown by his time in Scotland). I think Jim Crawford played a bigger role than is obvious in the relative success of the U-21s while Kenny was there - and I think he has proven that since taking over when Kenny was given the top job.
Carsley is a different kettle of fish - he is a highly regarded coach in footballing circles. He has had experience across a range of clubs - Coventry, Man City, Sheff Utd, Brentford and Birmingham in a range of capacities including caretaker manager for several of them, before he started working with the England U-20s and U21s. He won the Euros (admittedly with a good England squad - but there were a lot of good squads at that tournament). His experience and record is significantly better than Kenny's at the level that he would be expected to work at.
This doesn't mean that Carsley will be a success - but he does have the potential to be a success. In contrast, Kenny was always a disaster waiting to happen from the moment he was appointed U-21s manager and designated McCarthy's successor (it was never going to work and should never have happened). We have a young squad and more young players coming along the production line - Carsley is highly touted at being able to develop players, and while he wouldn't be my first choice, I would be optimistic about the future. I won't be burying my head in my hands at the ineptitude of the FAI when they appointed Kenny (and by the way - I don't blame Kenny for anything that has happened in the last four years - any LOI manager would have jumped at the prospect of getting the job - but Kenny had shown nothing that would lead anyone to believe he could have been anything other than what happened - and why the FAI renewed his contact in 2022 beggars belief).
I keep seeing write ups on Kieran McKenna and I know we wouldn't get him over a Premiership club or due to Ipswich's likely promotion but wouldn't he be great? In another era, the job might have attracted him. An Ireland supporter to boot having gone to the Euros.
Yea - probably true
McKenna is one who should be penciled for the future and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen at some stage - but he is likely to get a run at at least one big club before he becomes a realistic option for the Ireland job.
Yeah. I was very drunk when I wrote that tbf. I accept your response in full.
You were very drunk? Doesn't make you a bad person.
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