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    A Page boy or a Page turner ! !

    Our reputation ( the FAI and all that goes with the FAI ) is so bad now that it probably puts off many candidates ~ And the money ain't good enough to take the chance !

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    I think Page's time had come to pass, the last impressions matter most. Wales lost twice to Poland in the NL and got relegated with just 1 point. They had a very poor Euro qual campaign by any standards plus they were handed the gift of playing both playoff games at home.

    Though I was hoping Page would stay on for the NL B games in the autumn

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    MacAnthony is a clown but he's not wrong. There are several teams in the Euro's who we are better than on paper.
    Is there or do we just overrate ourselves and are less familiar with some of the other teams players? Transfermarkt is relatively impartial for "on paper" values and considers the Irish team 29th in Europe and below Georgia and Albania.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vere..._id=6&yt0=Show

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I think Page's time had come to pass, the last impressions matter most. Wales lost twice to Poland in the NL and got relegated with just 1 point. They had a very poor Euro qual campaign by any standards plus they were handed the gift of playing both playoff games at home.

    Though I was hoping Page would stay on for the NL B games in the autumn
    Does that reflect on Page or on the passing of a golden generation that a small country can't readily replace?

    The NL campaign - that showed Wales aren't at the level of Holland, Belgium and Poland. We knew that anyway. They were competitive throughout (five one-goal defeats, three of which were late winners), though I guess you could argue Kenny almost matched that against Serbia, Holland and France.

    A very poor Euro qualification campaign - with four points off Croatia, semifinalists at the World Cup 12 months earlier? Harsh. I see an erratic campaign from a middling side with a middling manager.

    Both playoff games were at home, sure, but we'd bite your hand off for 4-1 v Finland and 0-0 v Poland.

    I don't think he's an exceptional manager, but I think he's about our level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Does that reflect on Page or on the passing of a golden generation that a small country can't readily replace?

    The NL campaign - that showed Wales aren't at the level of Holland, Belgium and Poland. We knew that anyway. They were competitive throughout (five one-goal defeats, three of which were late winners), though I guess you could argue Kenny almost matched that against Serbia, Holland and France.

    A very poor Euro qualification campaign - with four points off Croatia, semifinalists at the World Cup 12 months earlier? Harsh. I see an erratic campaign from a middling side with a middling manager.

    Both playoff games were at home, sure, but we'd bite your hand off for 4-1 v Finland and 0-0 v Poland.

    I don't think he's an exceptional manager, but I think he's about our level.
    You are the best at talking up every national team...except Ireland ofcourse!

    Page isnt even Stephen Kenny's level and Kenny wasnt our level so Page definetly isnt, he's a slightly better version of O'Shea and like O'Shea he isnt good enough for us and realistically is isnt good enough for Wales either, he benefitted from the good work that Giggs had done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfinator View Post
    Is there or do we just overrate ourselves and are less familiar with some of the other teams players? Transfermarkt is relatively impartial for "on paper" values and considers the Irish team 29th in Europe and below Georgia and Albania.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vere..._id=6&yt0=Show
    The value on that page is based on the most recent squad, and whilst this applies to all teams potentially, 4 of Ireland 6 highest valued players were not in that squad lowering it by up to 101 million (Ferguson 50, Collins 25, Bazunu 15, Omobamidele 11). The addition of those would put us on a par with Scotland, value wise, which we probably aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murfinator View Post
    Is there or do we just overrate ourselves and are less familiar with some of the other teams players? Transfermarkt is relatively impartial for "on paper" values and considers the Irish team 29th in Europe and below Georgia and Albania.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vere..._id=6&yt0=Show
    That's because the Irish squad listed is missing 115M euro worth of players who were unavailable. Add that on and it would value our squad at 227M currently put us 18th/19th in Europe which if anything is very good when you consider the age profile of the squad as pretty much all the players at the top of that value chart are under 23 so will only increase when they get to the mid 20s.

    For context, when Stephen Kenny took over our squad was only valued at 120m.

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