Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

**JR89** · 05/03/2024, 10:51 PM

Israeli season runs until the end of May. League splits after the regular reason with the top 6 playing each other twice again.

**Philly** · 05/03/2024, 10:58 PM

Relieved to know I was incorrect there. Thanks for clarifying!

**Razors left peg** · 05/03/2024, 11:53 PM

If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.

**Razors left peg** · 05/03/2024, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Have to say, whatever happens from here, the Irish football press pack - rarely the most on the ball it must be said - have been played for absolute fools throughout this. Carsley must have been ruled in and ruled out about three times each now, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's another spin round the houses still to come with him. We've been told that it's going to be Lennon, Coleman and Bilic at different points, possibly Clement too. They've also linked Poyet, Barry and Rowett with the job at various stages too. And now the FAI are basically telling them that they've got their man, and between them the journos still can't get a decent lead on who it actually is. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being literally none of the names they've thrown out so far.

Agree completely. I think only Gavin Cooney and Dan McDonnell come out with any credit. Both have been willing to say all along that they havent got a clue

**JR89** · 06/03/2024, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.

Not the best example to use when the Icelandic league is ranked below the LOI and Faroe Islands league. Only ranked one place above the NI league.

**Razors left peg** · 06/03/2024, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by JR89

Not the best example to use when the Icelandic league is ranked below the LOI and Faroe Islands league. Only ranked one place above the NI league.

I picked it coz it began with I more than anything else

I just don't think people want to give him credit because it's Israel, and I get that. We can all agree without getting into politics that what's going on there is beyond disgusting. I just think if Robbie was doing this well in any other league he'd be getting major plaudits

**elatedscum** · 06/03/2024, 3:18 AM

Without getting too much into politics. He’s clearly done well from a footballing perspective, not enough to warrant getting the Ireland job this early but he’s done well. But it’s a long way from demonstrating he can do it at that level…

I said when he took the job that I didn’t think it was right to take a job there (and that was before October 7th). So I would be very against him taking over now.

I also think there’s a chance that the likes of paddy mccarthy etc are the back room team for the next manager but they’re starting now…

**Razors left peg** · 06/03/2024, 4:20 AM

Originally Posted by elatedscum

Without getting too much into politics. He’s clearly done well from a footballing perspective, not enough to warrant getting the Ireland job this early but he’s done well. But it’s a long way from demonstrating he can do it at that level…

I said when he took the job that I didn’t think it was right to take a job there (and that was before October 7th). So I would be very against him taking over now.

I also think there’s a chance that the likes of paddy mccarthy etc are the back room team for the next manager but they’re starting now…

I agree that the back room for these games are it going forward most likely, would make sense if everything is set up.

And for the most part I'd agree that it's probably too soon for Robbie but when we are talking up Anthony Barry, who has even less experience, Robbie should be a bigger part of the debate IMO.

In an ideal world Robbie wins the league this season and moves on to a different country.

**John83** · 06/03/2024, 4:34 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.

It's the 16th ranked league in Europe. Not great, not terrible. I think I've been giving him exactly the right amount of credit.

**Razors left peg** · 06/03/2024, 4:53 AM

Originally Posted by John83

It's the 16th ranked league in Europe. Not great, not terrible. I think I've been giving him exactly the right amount of credit.

Should he not get extra credit for getting his team to this stage of Europe? Finished ahead of a Belgian team in his group that would be regarded as a much stronger league? If he beats Olympiakos should he get more credit?

Personally I think his achievements are being slightly ignored because we don't like that he took the FAI money and he took a job in Israel.

We don't have too many managers doing well in world football, I just think it's a bit of a shame that Robbie is not being talked about more

**Olé Olé** · 06/03/2024, 5:20 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Agree completely. I think only Gavin Cooney and Dan McDonnell come out with any credit. Both have been willing to say all along that they havent got a clue

Cooney retweeting the Sneyd piece in a way that looks like he is backing it: https://twitter.com/gcooney93/status...PvBkVZouQ&s=19

**Olé Olé** · 06/03/2024, 5:25 AM

Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.

Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?

I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.

This is going to run and run.

**Razors left peg** · 06/03/2024, 5:34 AM

Originally Posted by Olé Olé

Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.

Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?

I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.

This is going to run and run.

I'm assuming Carsley will have a press conference or 2 in the run up to the game on the 22nd. I would hope he's asked directly if he's planning on staying or leaving. If he diverts questions instead of saying "I'm absolutely staying" then we should know.

**Snapshot** · 06/03/2024, 5:37 AM

Originally Posted by Olé Olé

Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.

Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?

I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.

This is going to run and run.

Could go down to the wire and deliver another massive shock, a la Big Jack.

**John83** · 06/03/2024, 5:57 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Should he not get extra credit for getting his team to this stage of Europe? Finished ahead of a Belgian team in his group that would be regarded as a much stronger league? If he beats Olympiakos should he get more credit?

Personally I think his achievements are being slightly ignored because we don't like that he took the FAI money and he took a job in Israel.

We don't have too many managers doing well in world football, I just think it's a bit of a shame that Robbie is not being talked about more

It's a good result. It doesn't carry a huge amount of weight in isolation, but hopefully it's part of a bigger trend. It may speak to your point though that I hadn't heard about it until your second last post.

**seanfhear** · 06/03/2024, 9:13 AM

Originally Posted by Snapshot

Could go down to the wire and deliver another massive shock, a la Big Jack.

Big Sam it is so ! ! !

**Snapshot** · 06/03/2024, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Big Sam it is so ! ! !

Hopefully not, mo chara geal. On a tidy little junket, two FAI officials toured Britain in their search to replace Eoin Hand. Some big-name candidates were briefed. What could possibly go wrong? Well, Jack got the job.

**seanfhear** · 06/03/2024, 10:00 AM

" Put Em Under Pressure ! "

**Razors left peg** · 06/03/2024, 3:56 PM

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...eland-manager/

Kerr saying he doesnt expect it to be Carsley, but he "could be wrong".

Its beyond stupid at this point. Let it just f'ing end one way or another!

**Diggs246** · 06/03/2024, 4:01 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...eland-manager/

Kerr saying he doesnt expect it to be Carsley, but he "could be wrong".

Its beyond stupid at this point. Let it just f'ing end one way or another!

Our problem is we are relying on the FAI, who are unreliable