Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

**seanfhear** · 19/02/2024, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I've heard the main sticking point in Colemans contract negotiations is that he's demanding Lillies Bordello be reopened. A former player, who is hoping to be on Colemans backroom staff, has let it be known that all the best nights in the teams past were in there.

Fair enough really.

**ltfc_2004** · 19/02/2024, 4:37 PM

so underwhelming its not even funny, its depressing how ****e the Ireland job is not one single outside the box contender.

We could of of come up with a FAI shortlist of Lennon, Keane and Coleman without ever lifting a finger ! I suppose its more money for Hill's commuting expenses !

**backstothewall** · 19/02/2024, 4:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Declan Rice would be ours for sure. I like how he capped promising players early alright.

Not to mention Ethan Ampadu.

In other news, Woy Hodgson is available. Pity it isn't 10 or 15 years ago.

**CraftyToePoke** · 19/02/2024, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by EalingGreen

There is no doubt that Giggs was a truly great player - in a truly great Man Utd side. But his record for Wales was much less impressive, not least in that he often didn't appear to give a stuff about them, if it clashed with his Man U duties - or haven't you ever seen "Ryan Giggs Hamstring" in a medical dictionary? Which was reflected in his playing only 64 caps in a 16 year international career.

Which was why he played 111 times for Wales during his 16 year international career, retiring a season after his last cap (Giggs went on playing for Man U for another 7 years after his last cap).

Keane had 60 odd caps for us similar to Giggs, similar time frame minus a bit of time off for misadventures, retired early & didn't trouble himself with friendlies often either, didn't score many goals at all, yet impacted us in a big way, played WC 94 and was huge in getting us to 2002 before firing his nappy at the TV and hitting the airport. So not purely an apps / goals thing maybe.

I think Bale was huge of course in it all but the point remains they did it under Coleman having not previously managed it.

**tetsujin1979** · 19/02/2024, 6:11 PM

Originally Posted by backstothewall

Not to mention Ethan Ampadu.

In other news, Woy Hodgson is available. Pity it isn't 10 or 15 years ago.

Ampadu wanted to play for Wales, didn't matter who was in charge

**Razors left peg** · 19/02/2024, 6:29 PM

https://twitter.com/gcooney93/status...946082678?s=19

We've really no clue what's going on behind the scenes

**CraftyToePoke** · 19/02/2024, 6:34 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

https://twitter.com/gcooney93/status...946082678?s=19

We've really no clue what's going on behind the scenes

Along those lines I heard Garry Monk was interviewed and he has not been mentioned anywhere even the longest bookies long list,no idea if true. Its encouraging to read the above.

**EalingGreen** · 19/02/2024, 7:03 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

Keane had 60 odd caps for us similar to Giggs, similar time frame minus a bit of time off for misadventures, retired early & didn't trouble himself with friendlies often either, didn't score many goals at all, yet impacted us in a big way, played WC 94 and was huge in getting us to 2002 before firing his nappy at the TV and hitting the airport. So not purely an apps / goals thing maybe.

I think Bale was huge of course in it all but the point remains they did it under Coleman having not previously managed it.

Hang on. I pointed out that Coleman had the (massive) advantage of having Bale for Wales, to which you replied that previous managers had Giggs.

I responded by demonstrating that Bale did far more for Wales than Giggs ever did - pretty incontrovertible, I'd say - and you counter by comparing Keane with Giggs?

How does that work?

Which also ignores that Coleman took over a Wales team in better shape after Toshack/Speed, than those two had before them, when taking over from a succession of duds like Hughes, Gould and Smith.

Plus there's this guy's contribution: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-wales-2245679

**EalingGreen** · 19/02/2024, 7:09 PM

Meanwhile, Tony Mowbray's illness could put a possible spanner in the works:
"The prognosis is unknown but the club is only confirming that the 60-year-old Teessider will be out of action for between six to eight weeks. However, the reality is that Mowbray is unlikely to make an appearance before the end of the campaign which finishes on May 4."

There is already speculation that Lee Carsley could be offered the job as Birmingham's Interim Manager til the season end. Might be rubbish, of course, but if he were tempted, it would certainly suit The FA to let him do it for a bit.

**Colbert Report** · 19/02/2024, 7:46 PM

Chris Coleman out according to numerous reports.

Interestingly, Thierry Henry has been linked to the vacant Canada job.

**Exgrad** · 19/02/2024, 7:49 PM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68337099

Coleman OUT

**seanfhear** · 19/02/2024, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Chris Coleman out according to numerous reports.

Interestingly, Thierry Henry has been linked to the vacant Canada job.

Surprising that Henry didn't put his hand up for the Irish Job ? !

**liamoo11** · 19/02/2024, 7:52 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I've heard the main sticking point in Colemans contract negotiations is that he's demanding Lillies Bordello be reopened. A former player, who is hoping to be on Colemans backroom staff, has let it be known that all the best nights in the teams past were in there.

Coleman ruled out now according to newstslk

**SkStu** · 19/02/2024, 7:55 PM

The storm is upon us.

**pineapple stu** · 19/02/2024, 7:56 PM

What the hell is going on here?

Coleman was only floated for pretty much the first time in the last few days. Now he's out already?

Who else is in that we don't know is in that's about to be out?

**Razors left peg** · 19/02/2024, 7:56 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

Coleman ruled out now according to newstslk

Lillie wasn't for turning

Coleman no longer in frame for Republic job - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68337099

**CraftyToePoke** · 19/02/2024, 7:56 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

The storm is upon us.

Biblical Stu, its raining dead dinosaurs.

**CraftyToePoke** · 19/02/2024, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

What the hell is going on here?

Coleman was only floated for pretty much the first time in the last few days. Now he's out already?

Who else is in that we don't know is in that's about to be out?

Was favourite for weeks on PP though.

**Razors left peg** · 19/02/2024, 7:58 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

What the hell is going on here?

Coleman was only floated for pretty much the first time in the last few days. Now he's out already?

Who else is in that we don't know is in that's about to be out?

I have a theory that Colemans name was thrown out there knowing the reaction it would cause and force the board into giving more money for Carsley.... stranger things have happened.

**pineapple stu** · 19/02/2024, 8:01 PM

Anthony Hudson is another who won't be getting it.

Former USA assistant manager now in charge in Qatar. That'd be left field I guess, so maybe they are looking out there. But now it just feels a bit desperate.