It's highly unlikely they went out to names with a budget significantly less than what they paid Kenny. So I would view the rest of that piece in the same way as every other piece published in the last week - that is with considerable suspicion.
Reaching out to huge names with a budget fit for another LoI appt.....they are flailing.
Sounds like they got excited by Carsley not turning them away immediately, then got flustered when he saw the money and laughed, switched to Lennon, then anticipated the backlash to him and started sending out spam emails to any available manager.
Give it to someone who will do it for next to nothing and pay off the debts so we might eventually have an association that can function properly.
21 leagues and 25 cups.
It's highly unlikely they went out to names with a budget significantly less than what they paid Kenny. So I would view the rest of that piece in the same way as every other piece published in the last week - that is with considerable suspicion.
You have to get the vibe that Carsley doesn't think its the right fit at the moment. I think that the FAI need to go for a pair of safe hands at this stage - Chris Hughton is a coach with a significant record of achievement, is available and would steady the ship and get things moving forward.
He also has a significant record of failure while playing crap footballOriginally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
Its really not that complicated!!!
You favour Chris Hughton you say JRG ?
That's news on here. We would never have worked that out.
And the likes of Neil Lennon, Steve Bruce, Chris Coleman, Roy Keane don't ?
Hughton has a better record than all of them - he sets up his teams to get results - and when he has the players he does it with an attacking style of football (at Newcastle, Birmingham and Brighton).
Lennon was sacked after 7 months by Omonia after a string of bad results
Bruce was sacked after 8 months by WBA when they were 22nd in the Championship
Coleman was sacked by Hebei China after less than a year with the club in the relegation zone
Keane last managed a team 13 years ago and was sacked by Ipswich with the club 21st in the Championship
Now - if the FAI can get Carsley (doesn't look like it will happen), Barry (which they won't), Eustace (shows no sign of happening) or some other candidate with a good record or good reputation - then I am all for it. But if it is a choice of the above - well -
All the others you listed would disappoint everyone, but no one on here is championing any of them they way you have been with Hughton endlessly
Its really not that complicated!!!
The seasons almost here Stu. We'll be OK.
Reading between the lines in his piece today, Kilbane reckons contractual negotiations are the final thing in the way for Carsley at present.
He tells a story about a John Delaney shambles. And then says "That is why it is vital to nail down certain guarantees in writing before agreeing to manage the Republic of Ireland." Goes on to say, in the context of the Ireland senior gig , that "Carsley will thrive around the in-game tactical battles with other coaches" and that "I know he understands the FAI plan."
Gavin Cummiskey writes with a bit of certainty that salary is the final hurdle. In line with what Miguel Delaney wrote about salary too. Hilarious that the FAI tried to low ball him really. I suppose if Hill, the commercial expert that he is, can't secure a sponsor he needs to bring some value elsewhere.
Might they be in a predicament inasmuch as getting Carsley will bring a sponsor, so Carsley wants a cut of that action too?
Decent article from Kilbane - Delaney chancing his arm trying to get them to work for free. Brass neck when you think of all the money sloshing around at the time.
Agree w/ him that Kerr should have an advisroy/technical role somewhere within the new setup. The priority is winning matches and not sentimentality or righting wrongs, but he'd be there on merit IMO as a voice worth adding to the mix before final decisions are made.
How would Brian Kerr be there on merit. He's done **** all in football since leaving the Faroe Islands.
Harsh. Maybe Kerr has achieved his professional ambitions and is happy enough to stay in Ireland? Kilbane: "Bring back The Greener as part of the technical team; a veteran managerial brain, a consigliere for the head coach, if you will." Might suit him. But will he do it for free?!
Why would Carsley need a consigliere?
To " Deal " with the FAI ! !
In case someone makes him an offer he can't refuse ?
It is funny how only a couple days ago McAteer says that Carsley has no interest in the job. If they are discussing details of a contract it shows how much of a clown McAteer really is.
Its really not that complicated!!!
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...ys-fai-worked/
This is a really interesting article that I suspect subtly tells us a lot about the current state of play, from someone who is most likely in the know.
Far be it from me to gainsay s.o. like KK, who clearly knows his stuff, but there's one thing I don't get:
"There is more to the role than qualifying for major tournaments. The FAI want Stephen Kenny’s replacement to introduce a style of play that becomes our identity as a football nation, with our teenage sides adopting a similar approach to the senior team."
I really don't understand how any individual, even for a country with a small player pool like ROI, can possibly both manage the Senior team AND take responsibility for under-age development.
For in the end, the former is a two, four or at most six year job, where the chief requirement is winning games/qualifying, and doing so with the players he's given. Whereas the latter is maybe a 10 year process, involving 4 or 5 under-age level teams, drawing their players from dozens of clubs and several leagues in different countries etc.
Take Belgium for example. Their Golden Age derived from the Belgian FA basically telling all their domestic top flight clubs that they HAD to coach their players in a certain style, with BFA-approved coaches. And when you look at all the great players they've produced, it clearly worked. But it took years to come through, during which time they had several Head Coaches for the Senior NT.
Now there are reasons why that couldn't work with ROI, primarily players going to GB/Europe at an early age, rather than staying at home, plus the lack of f-t domestic clubs with proper academies etc. But look instead to Wales, where Oisin Roberts did a great development job as Director of Football. But again that took a number of years, during which time the Senior NT had a number of Managers.
Which is not to say that the Senior NT's manager shouldn't be aware of, and have an input to, what a Director of Football is doing (in contrast eg to Martin O'Neill's distinct lack of interest in ROI under-age teams). And he should certainly have a close relationship with his U-21 manager (see eg Michael O'Neill and Ian Baraclough with NI)
But in the end he has enough to do with his own job, including integrating those "granny rulers" who've come through via an entirely different system and who will make up a fair proportion of his squad. And in any case, if the ROI Senior manager does a bad job, he'll be replaced soon enough. While if he does a good job, he's liable to leave for a bigger/better paid position elsewhere, in Carsley's case likely the PL, or even the big job at The FA.
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