Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

**pineapple stu** · 20/12/2023, 5:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

I think this is very interesting.

You manage to find fault with the first part of this. No view to share on the second part?

"Connolly - couldn't cut it in Serie A, struggling in the championship"

I don't think he has struggled in the Championship. Do you?

I think it's a reasonable comment within the clear generally caveat given. 6 goals in 19 games isn't exactly tearing it up, is it? The Serie A bit was a clear (minor) typo which is why I picked up on that part, and Connolly in general

**LurcherLover** · 20/12/2023, 5:29 PM

Ah sorry but a squad from 50+ years ago is of no relevance to anything regarding comparisons. 20 years would be a stretch, football has evolved so much from then.

**Razors left peg** · 20/12/2023, 5:38 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I think it's a reasonable comment within the clear generally caveat given. 6 goals in 19 games isn't exactly tearing it up, is it? The Serie A bit was a clear (minor) typo which is why I picked up on that part, and Connolly in general

6 goals in 19 games isn't bad

**pineapple stu** · 20/12/2023, 5:49 PM

So you agree it's not tearing it up?

Again, bearing in mind the caveat in the original post, I think the comment was fair enough.

**Razors left peg** · 20/12/2023, 6:06 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

So you agree it's not tearing it up?

Again, bearing in mind the caveat in the original post, I think the comment was fair enough.

Am I missing something or did someone say he was tearing it up?

I think when hes fit hes a very good Championship striker, the big caveat is "when fit"

**ontheotherhand** · 20/12/2023, 6:32 PM

Connolly is fairly irrelevant if we are comparing the Ireland team to another team. He's barely featured. We'd be in far better shape if one or two of himself, Idah, Parrot or Obafemi had delivered on their early promise. So far none really have and we are suddenly lumping everything on Ferguson. That alone points to the quality of the squad. He's just one lad. A special talent but he shouldn't have the pressure on him that he has. Not with the players around him that he has.

It's not the worst team in the world but it's certainly one of the worst we've had in recent memory. Green shoots are there all the same and a competent manager will at least give them a better platform to improve.

Enjoy the holidays folks.

**Razors left peg** · 20/12/2023, 6:34 PM

I don't understand why we are comparing teams tbh

**pineapple stu** · 20/12/2023, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Am I missing something or did someone say he was tearing it up?

I think when hes fit hes a very good Championship striker, the big caveat is "when fit"

Nope - but then you're not far off agreeing with me then that the original post was fair enough, given its caveat

(I'm not sure he's shown enough to show he's a "very good" Championship striker btw - his recent goal was his first in almost three months. That's not the marker of a very good striker)

**ontheotherhand** · 20/12/2023, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I don't understand why we are comparing teams tbh

it's the off season.

**Razors left peg** · 21/12/2023, 2:17 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Nope - but then you're not far off agreeing with me then that the original post was fair enough, given its caveat

(I'm not sure he's shown enough to show he's a "very good" Championship striker btw - his recent goal was his first in almost three months. That's not the marker of a very good striker)

He'd been injured for most of the last 3 months, hence the "if fit" caveat.

If you watch him play when he's fit he is very good

**SkStu** · 21/12/2023, 3:03 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Nope - but then you're not far off agreeing with me then that the original post was fair enough, given its caveat

(I'm not sure he's shown enough to show he's a "very good" Championship striker btw - his recent goal was his first in almost three months. That's not the marker of a very good striker)

To be fair, his form with Hull (8 goals in 24 games; 6 in 19 this season) puts him on course for about 15 goals in a full season. That is a very good championship striker in my opinion. His xG efficiency is in the 92nd percentile this season, well ahead of the average for forwards.

**pineapple stu** · 21/12/2023, 8:45 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

He'd been injured for most of the last 3 months, hence the "if fit" caveat.

If you watch him play when he's fit he is very good

He's been in the matchday squad for every one of Hull's league games this season so far as I can see. So no, he hasn't been injured most of the last three months.

Again, within the context of the caveat given (which everyone seems to be ignoring) I think the comment was reasonable.

He's shown promise this season, but he's still a way off proving himself a very good Championship forward

**pineapple stu** · 21/12/2023, 8:55 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

His xG efficiency is in the 92nd percentile this season, well ahead of the average for forwards.

Where'd you see this out of interest? Fbref disagrees; he's one of four Hull forwards on six goals, but has the highest xG of any of them. xG of 5.6 and 6 goals isn't 92nd percentile; it's pretty much the definition of average

https://fbref.com/en/squads/bd8769d1/Hull-City-Stats

(Actually, I think you're looking at chances created per 90? He's doing well there - 92nd percentile. Not sure efficiency is the right word though? He's getting a lot of chances, and converting them averagely well. And long may he continue to get lots of chances of course)

**Razors left peg** · 21/12/2023, 10:08 AM

Jesus we are great at analyzing stats. Sometimes watching the player is good. In watching him he is s very good player, when fit, which he too often isn't.

**pineapple stu** · 21/12/2023, 10:53 AM

He's literally not missed a matchday squad this season. You said he'd "been injured for most of the last 3 months", which is clearly not true. He just didn't score in that time.

And you're still ignoring the clear caveat in the original post, which I've referenced constantly, and which you've ignored each time.

Not sure what more can be added if you don't actually read the posts!

**SkStu** · 21/12/2023, 10:55 AM

Yeah, I�m not one for the stats - it was a little bit of research I did specially for you Pineapple!

Here�s where I got it� (it has him in the 92nd percentile for non penalty XG if that�s right - ahead of the average and behind Brobbey) https://fbref.com/en/players/27c01749/Aaron-Connolly

Tracking to 15 in a season is pretty good too, right?

**Razors left peg** · 21/12/2023, 11:18 AM

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/spor...eadmore-target

Connolly has been managing injuries most of this season.

You keep going on about this caveat,. 6 goals in 19 games, basically 1 in 3. That's pretty good at any level, it's also more impressive given that he often players wider with Delap through the middle. But here's a thought, actually watch him play. I could could care less about what his stats say. I've watched him play quiet a bit at Hull and that's simply what tells me he's a very good player.

**JR89** · 21/12/2023, 1:36 PM

Connolly has yet to miss a match day squad for Hull but as pointed out that doesn't mean he hasn't been dealing with injuries. The three games before the last international games he was an unused sub and Rosenior mentioned how he wasn't fit enough to come off the bench after the final game vs West Brom when asked about him.

**pineapple stu** · 21/12/2023, 3:34 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

You keep going on about this caveat

I do - and you've ignored it again.

Want to go back to the OP and see what the caveat was, and then come back to me? Because if you don't read what the post was, then your replies don't really make any sense.