Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

**liamoo11** · 13/12/2023, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Game changer if true. He'd be in pole position for me, never thought he would be realistic option.

This would be great. I'd happily let him stay on in an assistant role with bayern to see out his bayern contract. Be great to have a manager involved at champions league elite level club on a day to day basis and bringing that evolving experience to the national role. Its a win for everyone

**liamoo11** · 13/12/2023, 5:40 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Kerr stuff is nonsense. I'll never get past his last game in charge when we needed to beat the Swiss. He subbed Robbie Keane and Clinton Morrison and we finished the game with Gary Doherty and Steven Elliot up front. This on top of his decision to take Duff off the left wing and put him up front at home to Israel. He was unplayable on the wing that day and became totally ineffective up front.

Kerr was rightly sacked at the time, what followed didnt make that decision wrong and his bitterness in recent years has made him thoroughly unlikable

That Israel game was very unlucky, we dominated them playing lovely football as I remember it.

**pineapple stu** · 13/12/2023, 5:47 PM

We did, but Kerr's teams had an awful habit of sitting back on their leads and being punished for it. If we'd kept playing lovely ball we'd have beaten them home and away and qualified handily

**liamoo11** · 13/12/2023, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

We did, but Kerr's teams had an awful habit of sitting back on their leads and being punished for it. If we'd kept playing lovely ball we'd have beaten them home and away and qualified handily

I always felt he was unlucky but I was biased as I had loved his underage age work as we all had. I never felt that about Kenny cause I didn't actually think he had any underage interest really just that he took the 21s as it was part of the deal to be senior manager.

**texidub** · 13/12/2023, 6:02 PM

I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that Kerr should be manager again - more that he would have insights to offer in some role around the team/FAI.

**tetsujin1979** · 13/12/2023, 6:17 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

That Israel game was very unlucky, we dominated them playing lovely football as I remember it.

We were unlucky in that we gave away a soft penalty, there's little you can do about that, and a once in a career header to equalise, and let's not forget Awat in goals getting O'Brien sent off
But Kerr made his own bad luck by moving Duff up front, when he was dominating the left wing, moving Kilbane out of midfield, where he was solid, and bringing on Kavanagh, when Stephen Elliott was sitting on the bench. Kerr claimed at the time that Eliott wasn't fit, but he played 90 minutes three days later against the Faroes.

**ontheotherhand** · 13/12/2023, 7:28 PM

Barry would be a really positive and forward thinking move by the FAI. So I'll prepare for Big Sam.

**CSAD** · 13/12/2023, 7:43 PM

Of the names in realistic contention only Barry & Carsley sound like potentially positive moves, all the others can get in the bin, I don�t see how it will make us better.

Barry sounds like a perfect appointment the more I think about it.

**Jolly Red Giant** · 13/12/2023, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

We were unlucky in that we gave away a soft penalty, there's little you can do about that, and a once in a career header to equalise, and let's not forget Awat in goals getting O'Brien sent off
But Kerr made his own bad luck by moving Duff up front, when he was dominating the left wing, moving Kilbane out of midfield, where he was solid, and bringing on Kavanagh, when Stephen Elliott was sitting on the bench. Kerr claimed at the time that Eliott wasn't fit, but he played 90 minutes three days later against the Faroes.

I am sure if he had an opportunity to do things differently he probably would.

Don't forget - Kerr had a decent run as Faroes manager - with a population the size of Dundalk - they beat Lithuania and Estonia, drew with Luxembourg away and Northern Ireland at home - and gave both France and Italy one hell of a fright with both lucky to get out of the Faroes with a 1-0 win. And he laid some very good foundations for the team that helped Lars Olsen who replaced him. Indeed Lars Olsen mightn't be a bad option if he was interested in the job.

**Eirambler** · 13/12/2023, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by CSAD

Of the names in realistic contention only Barry & Carsley sound like potentially positive moves, all the others can get in the bin, I don�t see how it will make us better.

Barry sounds like a perfect appointment the more I think about it.

I mean, virtually any of the rumoured managers would make us better than we have been. Any manager that comes in and sets up the team with a modicum of common sense will at least achieve that.

I'd be very surprised if Barry ends up being the man.

**tetsujin1979** · 13/12/2023, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

I am sure if he had an opportunity to do things differently he probably would.

Thing is - the Israel game was his opportunity to do something different. The injury to Keane meant he had to make a change up front, but he didn't need to move Duff or Kilbane.
Kenny Cunningham was suspended for the last game in the Euro 2004 qualifying group, away to Switzerland, so he moved John O'Shea to centre half, and played Harte at full back, i.e. two unforced changes, when just replacing Cunningham with Andy O'Brien was the simpler change. We lost that game, without ever looking like taking anything from it.

I'm not saying that playing O'Brien against Switzerland or playing Elliott against Israel would have meant taking anything from either game, I'm saying that he didn't learn from the mistake of unforced errors

**JR89** · 13/12/2023, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Game changer if true. He'd be in pole position for me, never thought he would be realistic option.

From the comments Hill made about getting the friendlies in place for our new manager don't think Barry would be a realistic option. I don't see him walking away from Portugal before the Euros this summer.

Unless the FAI is happy for whatever backroom team would be assembled to take charge for the friendlies with Barry officially coming in after the Euros. It's s also hard seeing him walk away from Bayern to takeover as manager and not sure the FAI would consider a head coach that double jobs. Though given the situation we find ourselves in it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for them to consider.

**ifk101** · 14/12/2023, 10:25 AM

Hopefully there is truth to the Barry approach. Regardless of whether he�d be interested or not, encouraging that this is the type of candidate being considered. Much better imo to be seeking a fresh, forward thinking candidate looking to build his career in management, rather than somebody near/ in retirement with no real incentive to push the envelope.