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    Quote Originally Posted by Indo View Post
    The FAI say they are at an advanced stage of the process of finding Stephen Kenny's replacement as manager of the senior Ireland men's team while the new boss of the women's side will be in place before Christmas, CEO Jonathan Hill today said.
    https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...898481879.html

    Meanwhile Brady wants Kerr back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam Brady View Post
    “You know who I would like to see if things were difficult, and you are going to be amazed at this, I’d like to see Brian Kerr brought back,” said Brady, as he accepted the Soccer Writers Ireland International Achievement Award at their annual banquet in Dublin on Friday.

    “He has got an amazing track record with young players and we have a young team. I remember going to watch his teams win the U-16 and U-18 Euros.

    “I just think he’s a safe pair of hands, bring a couple of people in, maybe Stephen Bradley or Damien Duff alongside him and see what can evolve from there. That would be my thinking, if we can’t get somebody like (Lee) Carsley.
    https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...479478077.html

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    Seriously doubt that Kerr would be interested at this stage - he's 70 years old - and he hasn't managed a team since he left the Faroes 12 years ago.

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    Half a million a year is hard to turn down

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    at least he'd be off punditry. don't think Brian has the patience for mgmt anymore though. he's gone awful sour the past few years.

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    I know a fella that stopped watching and supporting Ireland after the 'treatment' (his words) Kerr got in the job. I agree that Kerr wasn't treated all that well, but I'll support Ireland regardless. Anyway, if Kerr gets the job, that's the fan base up by at least one so maybe worth considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texidub View Post
    I know a fella that stopped watching and supporting Ireland after the 'treatment' (his words) Kerr got in the job. I agree that Kerr wasn't treated all that well, but I'll support Ireland regardless. Anyway, if Kerr gets the job, that's the fan base up by at least one so maybe worth considering.
    What I could see happening is that Kerr being part of Chris Hughton's backroom team if Hughton got the job - reversing their roles from when Kerr was manager. Hughton regularly hired Colin Calderwood to be his assistant - but Calderwood is assistant at Southampton now (part of the reason the Southampton defence is playing a lot better - he joined them in October).

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    I'd like to see him involved somwehere, but would he want it? His pride was hurt, I think, and he didn't get the same levels of understanding Kenny got. It's all a bit weird, but he has a lot of knowledge and experience to bring especially w/ young players.

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    Kerr had an far more talented squad than Kenny - prime Robbie Keane, Duff, Given, Andy O'Brien playing Champions League football with Newcastle - and with greater depth - remember Richard Dunne couldn't get into the team! - and he couldn't win a competitive game against any team in the top eighty in the world, never scored more than three in a game - and only managed that twice - and I don't think I will ever understand taking off Robbie Keane at home when we needed a goal at home against Switzerland in what turned out to be his final game in charge.
    Did he really do anything to show he deserved a new contract?
    Last edited by tetsujin1979; 12/12/2023 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Kerr had an far more talented squad than Kenny - prime Robbie Keane, Duff, Given, Andy O'Brien playing Champions League football with Newcastle - and with greater depth - remember Richard Dunne couldn't get into the team! - and he couldn't win a competitive game against any team in the top eighty in the world, never scored more than three in a game - and only managed that twice - and I don't think I will ever understand taking off Robbie Keane at home when we needed a goal at home against Switzerland ok what turned out to be his final game in charge.
    Did he really do anything to show he deserved a new contract?

    No he didn't and doesn't deserve to be considered now.

    As you say he had very good players and an easy group and he blow it

    This is lunacy tbh, he hasn't been in management for years and that was with the Faroes an amateur team.

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    Given who was brought in to replace him I think Kerr could justifiably argue he deserved another two years at the time. But it would be lunacy to consider bringing him back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Given who was brought in to replace him I think Kerr could justifiably argue he deserved another two years at the time. But it would be lunacy to consider bringing him back now.
    I think kerr could more than justifiably argue that his replacement was terrible, but that to me is not relevant. Kerr was correctly sacked and should have been replaced by a better experience professional manager

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    Stephen Kelly makes a case for Hughton.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023...stood-hughton/

    People will think Chris is a throwback, but he’s not an old-school manager," he said. "Chris is a scholar of the game, constantly learning, constantly improving.

    "He has a wealth of experience. You just have to look at what he has done with teams in and around the Championship, and that’s where I’d put our team (Ireland), a top-end Championship side, who he could get the best out of.

    "Hughton has done that with Newcastle, done amazing things with Birmingham City (got the club to the play-offs in his only season in charge), put Brighton into the position they are in now.

    "I think he’s someone that could really work and with his wealth of experience, it might be the way to go.

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    I always felt Kerr never really found his best team and never really got his team playing good football.

    The decision to play Duffer as a 10 was a failure (I think Kerr described as “the free role”. I know he was essentially trying to replace Roy’s presence by putting our best player in a place where he could have more of an impact, but instead of that, he essentially played his best player in a position where he wasn’t comfortable.

    With total hindsight, you’d wonder what would have happened had he tried to bed a LOI playing Wes into that side (age 21-23 and SPL based from 23 on). He was called up by Don Givens in the squad between Mick and Brian Kerr - so it’s not totally outrageous

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    Kerr stuff is nonsense. I'll never get past his last game in charge when we needed to beat the Swiss. He subbed Robbie Keane and Clinton Morrison and we finished the game with Gary Doherty and Steven Elliot up front. This on top of his decision to take Duff off the left wing and put him up front at home to Israel. He was unplayable on the wing that day and became totally ineffective up front.

    Kerr was rightly sacked at the time, what followed didnt make that decision wrong and his bitterness in recent years has made him thoroughly unlikable
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Game changer if true. He'd be in pole position for me, never thought he would be realistic option.

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    I'm sure he'd do a very good job for about six months before leaving us for Belgium, Portugal, Crystal Palace or someone else.

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    Can't see that one happening. Bayern had to pay a 7 figure sum to get him on board 8x months ago and just going to let him walk for free? I'd imagine it's a case of we want him but can't afford him. He would also earn much more if he took a coaching role in the Championship which he is touted of being linked to several clubs.

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    Could see this being a bit of name dropping from the FAI to soften the blow when a less popular manager is chosen - e.g. Hughton. A kind of "we tried for Barry but we couldn't get him so it's not our fault if you don't like Hughton" kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Could see this being a bit of name dropping from the FAI to soften the blow when a less popular manager is chosen - e.g. Hughton. A kind of "we tried for Barry but we couldn't get him so it's not our fault if you don't like Hughton" kind of thing.
    I dont see how that could make anything better...if anything it would make it even worse by showing us what we "could" have had.

    Also the FAI are not in the fan's good books so I dont see how "trying" is going to make things better.

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