It's not an assessment, it's a character assassination. You've created a ridiculous scenario with O'Shea cast as some conniving Uriah Heep lurking in the shadows. Well, he's not. You have no way of knowing he'd be a last-resort appointment - and even if that were the case he should be judged on results and not jaundiced preconceptions.Originally Posted by Eirambler
Go Coillte Mach rachad / ní stopfaidh me choíche /
Go seasfaidh mé síos / i lár Chondae Mhaigh Eo.
With our budget and our mess of an association we are not going to attract any manager that doesn't come with some baggage, a spotty record, past best before date or is unproven. Whoever is announced and whenever is likely to be imperfect and grossly underwhelming to the masses. At that point, it becomes a matter of who is the best of that bad bunch. I think O'Shea is bottom of that list - fluffed audition, no experience and I think would be not much better than having retained SK. Bruce, Lennon probably next worst. Even Carsley is largely unproven although seems a decent gamble. Andersson and Sagnol would be intriguing, have potential and would get bums in seats.
What is the salary they are offering?
We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one I think. My view is that his position as set out in his quotes at the UEFA thing yesterday further reinforce the views I stated. You clearly feel otherwise, fair enough.
Obviously the exact details haven't been released, but the suggestion seems to be that it's been upped to somewhere in the region of €700k to €750k per year. Obviously less than what most if not all managers in the Championship would be on, but on the other hand it's a much less intensive role.
The Premiership has had unusually few sackings mid-season this year, so the summer might well be a bloodbath. It could make it harder for the FAI to pitch with a lot of better jobs open, or it might mean there's a decent manager at a low point. I'm sure an ambitious CEO would be all over it anyway.
Oh.
You can't spell failure without FAI
€550k p.a. basic I think.
A lot of reports I'm reading state that Chris Hughton has got the job.
Does anybody else even half decent want it ?
Not having a go at Chris Hughton there.
Where did you see that?
Id be delighted tbh
Money has never been a motivation for Hughton - he was the lowest paid manager in the PL when at Brighton.
The Indo has had a couple of pieces in the last day, that Hughton has been approached again. I think if he turns it down they'll go to O'Shea.
The only thing that would stop Hughton taking the job would be if he feels he needs more time after finishing with Ghana. But I suspect that the Ireland job is the one job he would really like a shot at before he retired.
Would he be any good do you think ?
Would you favour him ?
I think we are well past caring about PR look. The guy is about to win a league title and seems to be the best young Irish manager out there
Its really not that complicated!!!
We talking about Duff?
I'd take Duff or Robbie in a heartbeat now.
Honestly I'm disillusioned with everything. I genuinely thought they were running a professional recruitment process. This week has shown that its worse than the Delaney days. Canceling the board meeting tonight is beyond belief. Absolutely believe that all Government funding should stop immediately until we get some answers from them of what the hell has gone on here. Has Canham just been conning everyone? What about Paul Cookes oversight? So many questions need answers
Its really not that complicated!!!
They are all conning everyone. I'd imagine anyone with a shred of integrity left during the Delaney years. I'd love to think there are a few good people in there working for the right reasons but there's been very little evidence of that. Scanlon comes across OK, if a bit naive. But whenever I hear anyone else there talk I feel like I'm being sold a lemon.
Nice summary from the Examiner here - https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41375971.html
We really are back at Square One. It could yet be O'Shea because there's no-one else - yet it surprises me Keane, who is in club management and doing reasonably ok - has barely been mentioned at all. Some experience > no experience I'd have thought.
Hughton mentioned as taking a break at the moment. Could be seeing what happens in the summer when the club merry -go-round gets underway.
O'Shea not overly keen on interim in June either, so we might need an interim interim manager
Edit - the Indo is reporting we're making a fresh speech approach to Hughton.
But lots of stuff has been reported to date and most of it hasn't happened so...
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I think Robbie is not being talked about because the FAI know the ****storm that would kick-off politically, at a time when it seems the government is flying a kite on recognising Palestine. We've already had TD's criticising him for taking that job, but giving him the national team would really set way more off, and there would be calls to boycott the side before too long. The identity of our national team manager, and not just the hiring process, would become a topic for committees that have power over pursestrings. And that in turn would create conditions for "political interference" claims or however you want to call what FIFA selectively enforces. It doesn't surprise me at all that the FAI is just refusing to countenance that: they've already, seemingly, told Lennon where to go for his issues, and possibly Sagnol too.
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This, from Gavin Cooney today, is fantastic
https://www.the42.ie/fai-managerial-...56205-Apr2024/
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