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    UCD might be (although PFAI rules would count the scholarship as payment of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    UCD might be (although PFAI rules would count the scholarship as payment of course)
    Do you mean they might be going back to the scholarship only model? As in, no more ‘outsiders’ like Tommy Lonergan etc that weren’t attending the college (and presumably being paid a nominal wage)?
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    There may be the odd player from Rovers B or something like that I guess, but in the First Division, nominal wages for outsiders will be hard to justify I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Safe to say the Thomond experiment didn't work either, with an average attendance of 1,649 in 2013, and 757 in 2014. Peaked at 3,758 for their opening Thomond Park game, but dropped like a stone fairly quickly and only got above 1,000 twice in 2014.

    Always looked very poor in a 25k capacity ground too.
    Absolutely, it looked awful at times, and security were a pain in the arse. Jackman, for all of its any faults, was a better home for the club relative to its size at the time, but then there were licensing concerns, and POS wanted the news story that renting Thomond was, and I bet was dreaming of hosting Euro games there down the line too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    Interesting tidbit from LOI Central I heard today that investors seem to contact the FAI first in regards to investing in clubs and are steered in whatever direction the FAI considers best,not sure if that’s how the Treaty investment came about but still an interesting part of the new investment that’s currently entering the league….
    Seems a bit strange to me, in two respects.

    First, if would-be investors cannot do their own initial homework in identifying a suitable club to take over, then what does that say about their knowledge and ability to run the club after they've acquired it?

    And second, the interests of the LOI may not exactly coincide with those of new owners. For example, the LOI may want to steer them towards a club which is struggling, as opposed to another club which has better prospects overall. Or they might want to bolster a club in a part of the country which is otherwise under-represented, rather than one in an area, or Dublin, which already has LOI clubs. Or they might even end up being influenced be someone in the LOI who has a personal preference towards (or against) a given club.

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    Absolutely agree ..TP a big white elephant for loi soccer

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    The FAI, or some employed officials thereof, were actively involved and providing support to Roddy and his developer buddies when they wanted to buy us back in 2008 I think it was. Thank Christ the club weren't stupid enough to do that deal.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    With this having effectively become a de facto club ownership thread, Brian Ainscough hadn't anything dramatic to say on Between the Stripes other than the part-time move for 2024 - happy with the commercial support during the season, and that the financial position is sustainable, hoping to attract more fans from the rest of the county in 2024 (which will obviously require consistently improved results from the squad), will likely see more American and possibly UK players in the squad while still focusing on the local core, limited in what improvements can be made to Mounthawk Park but will discuss same with the KDL.

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    Do they have a mid/long term stadium plan at all?

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    A 25-year lease was signed with the KDL in the spring, so they can discuss refurbishments together over the close season, but capacity won't be a worry unless/until form consistently improves, and being in a residential area, development will necessarily be incremental in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culloty82 View Post
    A 25-year lease was signed with the KDL in the spring, so they can discuss refurbishments together over the close season, but capacity won't be a worry unless/until form consistently improves, and being in a residential area, development will necessarily be incremental in nature.
    There's almost certainly the space to extend the stand the entire length of the pitch, and put in something a little better on the opposite side of the ground, but they're a bit snookered on either end.
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    https://twitter.com/ByBarryLandy/sta...17057562681776

    Q&A from the new Drogheda investors this evening,won’t be going full time next season and might not be for a couple of seasons either…..
    Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.

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    The official YouTube channel has a ten minute interview with a Tricor director up: https://youtu.be/kpf33C2Qz4s?si=WxDL9RH8UeM_Qad-

    Makes it sound like they have been very hands-off this season, but who knows really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    https://twitter.com/ByBarryLandy/sta...17057562681776

    Q&A from the new Drogheda investors this evening,won’t be going full time next season and might not be for a couple of seasons either…..
    They'll not be needing a full-time squad in the First Division anyway.

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    I dunno, things are looking like you could need to have a FT setup to bounce back especially if another premier side gets relegated. Not massive money f/t like Galway but its moving in the direction of p/t not being enough. If Drogs were FT now or last season itd be imteresting to see if thered be a marked difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    I dunno, things are looking like you could need to have a FT setup to bounce back especially if another premier side gets relegated. Not massive money f/t like Galway but its moving in the direction of p/t not being enough. If Drogs were FT now or last season itd be imteresting to see if thered be a marked difference.
    Finn Harps were largely FT last year and we were a shambles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    I dunno, things are looking like you could need to have a FT setup to bounce back especially if another premier side gets relegated. Not massive money f/t like Galway but its moving in the direction of p/t not being enough. If Drogs were FT now or last season itd be imteresting to see if thered be a marked difference.
    I'm not sure where the myth came from that we were paying massive money last year. We were FT granted, but we were hardly paying loads of our players 600-700 a week or something in the First Division. The team we start every week now usually has at least 8 or 9 players from last years squad in it. Our budget would've been in line with Waterford's last year as well. The club has been very sensible and lived within its means after promotion, I'm sure Caulfield would've wanted a lot more in terms of budget, but we've only added modestly to the squad over the off season.

    A lot of people assumed that we would fair like Cork last year due to not really doing a big overhaul on the squad after promotion, but we had a strong squad last year with an experienced backbone, and they have done really well so far this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Finn Harps were largely FT last year and we were a shambles.
    Dave Rogers was even worse than you can imagine!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olander View Post
    I'm not sure where the myth came from that we were paying massive money last year. We were FT granted, but we were hardly paying loads of our players 600-700 a week or something in the First Division. The team we start every week now usually has at least 8 or 9 players from last years squad in it. Our budget would've been in line with Waterford's last year as well. The club has been very sensible and lived within its means after promotion, I'm sure Caulfield would've wanted a lot more in terms of budget, but we've only added modestly to the squad over the off season.

    A lot of people assumed that we would fair like Cork last year due to not really doing a big overhaul on the squad after promotion, but we had a strong squad last year with an experienced backbone, and they have done really well so far this year.
    Fair enough, massive money over last two years! Galway should probaly have been given special status of the 4th biggest budget in the league, maybe with Waterford last season. If you were paying any of your players 600-700 a week in the 1st division then you were paying massive money!!

    Beware JC! He convinced his beloved Cork City Foras to spend for return of a bocht club. The Comers wont run out of money but Caulfield isnt a basement budget manager when he gets a whiff of possible silverware!

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    Didn't one of the Comers say a few months ago that he was personally putting over a million in per season. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure I wasn't dreaming about Galway United budgets

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