Palestinian Israeli Conflict.

**seanfhear** · 19/01/2025, 3:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Fly

The incoming Trump presidency is probably the main reason or factor for why a ceasefire has been agreed at this point.

Should President Donald J Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize for this ~ After-all Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for doing sweet fanny adams at the time !

**Neish** · 21/01/2025, 9:40 AM

Originally Posted by The Fly

The incoming Trump presidency is probably the main reason or factor for why a ceasefire has been agreed at this point.

Is this the same guy who just signed an order rescinding the restrictions & sanctions on Israel for allowing illegal settlements to be built on land belonging to Palestinian families?

**The Fly** · 21/01/2025, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Neish

Is this the same guy who just signed an order rescinding the restrictions & sanctions on Israel for allowing illegal settlements to be built on land belonging to Palestinian families?

Yeah.

**Neish** · 28/01/2025, 7:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Fly

Yeah.

And now is big plan is to simply move all Palestinians out of Gaza, basically giving Nethnyahu exactly what he has wanted all along

**pineapple stu** · 28/01/2025, 8:22 AM

In a completely unrelated move, Trump has also announced he's cutting all US foreign aid except to Israel and Turkey. (Not sure why Turkey TBH)

The world sits by and watches the ethnic cleansing continue...

**John83** · 28/01/2025, 9:37 AM

Originally Posted by Neish

And now is big plan is to simply move all Palestinians out of Gaza, basically giving Nethnyahu exactly what he has wanted all along

"Clean out" Gaza was the quote about his notion of ethnic clensing.

**The Fly** · 28/01/2025, 9:41 AM

Originally Posted by Neish

And now is big plan is to simply move all Palestinians out of Gaza, basically giving Nethnyahu exactly what he has wanted all along

It's still the same guy.

**culloty82** · 28/01/2025, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

In a completely unrelated move, Trump has also announced he's cutting all US foreign aid except to Israel and Turkey. (Not sure why Turkey TBH)

The world sits by and watches the ethnic cleansing continue...

Turkey is currently involved in a military campaign against the autonomous Kurdish government in Northern Syria, largely in order to prevent their own Kurds getting similar notions.

**pineapple stu** · 02/02/2025, 8:21 PM

So the Israelis today started bombing the West Bank.

But this is so perfectly normal - they're just like us after all.

Given the absolute state of Gaza and Trump's comments that the place needs to be cleared out, this could genuinely end in complete ethnic cleansing.

And no sanctions whatsoever.

Utter, utter scumbags

**seanfhear** · 02/02/2025, 8:53 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

So the Israelis today started bombing the West Bank.

But this is so perfectly normal - they're just like us after all.

Given the absolute state of Gaza and Trump's comments that the place needs to be cleared out, this could genuinely end in complete ethnic cleansing.

And no sanctions whatsoever.

Utter, utter scumbags

What did Hamas expect to happen after October 7th ~ ~ I could have told you what would happen, if Hamas or anyone els for that matter did something like October 7th !

I don't support anything that Israel does ( why would I, or any Irish person )

You can be freedom fighters / terrorists ~ ~ What you can't be, is stupid freedom fighters / stupid terrorists ! !

**The Fly** · 02/02/2025, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

What did Hamas expect to happen after October 7th ~ ~ I could have told you what would happen, if Hamas or anyone els for that matter did something like October 7th !

I don't support anything that Israel does ( why would I, or any Irish person )

You can be freedom fighters / terrorists ~ ~ What you can't be, is stupid freedom fighters / stupid terrorists ! !

Well it's pretty safe to assume that they didn't expect the Israeli government to react in the way that it has. If they did then Hamas is essentially an armed doomsday cult.

In reacting the way it has though Israel lost any (or most) of the sympathy it had gained in the immediate aftermath of October 7th.

I fear the whole thing's too far gone now. It's pretty much insolvable at this point.

**seanfhear** · 02/02/2025, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Fly

Well it's pretty safe to assume that they didn't expect Israeli government to react in the way that it did.

In reacting the way it has Israel lost any (or most) of the sympathy it had gained in the immediate aftermath of October 7th.

I fear the whole thing's too far gone now. It's pretty much insolvable at this point.

Israel does not care about the reactions of other countries ( bar America ) and certainly not about the reactions of people around the world.

I knew and understood this before October 7th ~ ~ Surely Hamas and Israel's other enemies would know this as well !

I don't support Israel in any way what-so-ever ~ ~ But I knew what they would do if anybody attacked them, like they were attacked on October 7th.

**The Fly** · 02/02/2025, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Israel does not care about the reactions of other countries ( bar America ) and certainly not about the reactions of people around the world.

It may not care, but that's not without consequences in the long term.

Originally Posted by seanfhear

I knew and understood this before October 7th ~ ~ Surely Hamas and Israel's other enemies would know this as well !

I don't support Israel in any way what-so-ever ~ ~ But I knew what they would do if anybody attacked them, like they were attacked on October 7th.

I think in many cases people can just be too close to something to things clearly, just like being too detached from something has, or can have, the same effect. Perhaps this was the case with Hamas, but we'll probably never know at this point. There aren't many left to tell the tale.

The whole thing's just incredibly sad.

**Neish** · 03/02/2025, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

What did Hamas expect to happen after October 7th ~ ~ I could have told you what would happen, if Hamas or anyone els for that matter did something like October 7th !

I don't support anything that Israel does ( why would I, or any Irish person )

You can be freedom fighters / terrorists ~ ~ What you can't be, is stupid freedom fighters / stupid terrorists ! !

I'm sure Hamas expected and probably wanted a reaction to justify their fanatical cause, but not the killing of over 60k and almost total destruction of Gaza City. I find is ludicrous how you keep saying your not supporting Israel yet continually finding excuse for their atrocities or attempting to shift blame. Also find i bizarre how I regularly see it said (not specifically by you or here) the one of Hamas's manifesto points is the destruction of the Israeli state and this being used to justify Israel's action, yet Israel is actually doing just to the people of Palestine yet still somehow Israel is the good guy and buddy of the west

**seanfhear** · 03/02/2025, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Neish

I'm sure Hamas expected and probably wanted a reaction to justify their fanatical cause, but not the killing of over 60k and almost total destruction of Gaza City. I find is ludicrous how you keep saying your not supporting Israel yet continually finding excuse for their atrocities or attempting to shift blame. Also find i bizarre how I regularly see it said (not specifically by you or here) the one of Hamas's manifesto points is the destruction of the Israeli state and this being used to justify Israel's action, yet Israel is actually doing just to the people of Palestine yet still somehow Israel is the good guy and buddy of the west

I have zero time for Israel ( none / nada / nil )

I am just pointing out that I knew what Israel would do, if any of their enemies did anything like October 7th ~ ~ Now, if I can work this out ~ ~ Shouldn't Israel's enemies be able to work it out ! ! !

**tetsujin1979** · 03/02/2025, 12:42 PM

I think you should use more tildas and exclamation points.
You know, for the greater good

**seanfhear** · 03/02/2025, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I think you should use more tildas and exclamation points.
You know, for the greater good

I'm rumbled !

**SkStu** · 03/02/2025, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I think you should use more tildas and exclamation points.
You know, for the greater good

I've been spending time browsing YBIG for the last couple of weeks and im chuffed that i got this

By the way - whatever about the wrongs of October 7th, what Israel has done in response over the last year and a half is disgraceful. Scum.

**CraftyToePoke** · 03/02/2025, 1:26 PM

I spotted him too. Before tets outed him.

That ~ is visible at 100 yards in heavy fog. No point having a different username at all seanfhear

**seanfhear** · 03/02/2025, 5:43 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

I spotted him too. Before tets outed him.

That ~ is visible at 100 yards in heavy fog. No point having a different username at all seanfhear

To be honest ~ ~ I registered there a long time ago under a different user name but forgot the details ~ ~ Re-registering now was a spur of the moment thing ~ ~ I thought I probably wouldn't even post but kinda got sucked in ( slowly ) ~ ~ Do I have to, turn myself in at a Garda Barracks now ? !