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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    How much do you feel you have in common with Hitler's Germany?

    I'm any event, it's not an either-or option here. You can disapprove of both.
    Very little, slightly puzzled why you'd ask? But yes I do disapprove of both.
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    You don't have to but most people do pick a side no matter how reprehensible both parties are.
    Most people in ireland on social media and in public seem to support the mad mullahs and their bag carriers , I don't get it but they are entitled to their opinions I suppose, just don't go live there.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 02/10/2024 at 10:50 PM.

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    You don't see the similarities with two genocidal, expansionist, aggressive regime which have groomed a cult-like, unquestioning, belief in their stance among their population?

    I'm not sure how well you understand this topic to be honest

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    I understand perfectly, you've chosen your side and you dont like my choice fair enough. Don't think we are going to change each others minds somehow. Hopefully things calm down soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I'm not sure how well you understand this topic to be honest
    That kind of line just picks fights. This is a contentious enough issue without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    I understand perfectly, you've chosen your side and you dont like my choice fair enough. Don't think we are going to change each others minds somehow. Hopefully things calm down soon
    But can you explain why you feel you've little in common with Nazi Germany but a lot in common with Israel, despite both being genocidal, expansionist, aggressive regime which have groomed a cult-like, unquestioning, belief in their stance among their population?

    The Mad Mullah thing isn't an argument - or at least I could match it with a Mad Commie equivalent for the Nazis

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    I just find it absurd that anyone in their right mind would support Israel here, given the terror, relentless bombing, murdering of children, families, women, doctors, students, and zero let up in the midst of it, ordering people to evacuate into makeshift campsites that are too small for the number of people, and then bombing those campsites.

    And all of that is just tipping the iceberg.

    There is zero justification for their acts. Zero. No amount of whataboutery or finger pointing justifies it.
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    I find it hard to believe that people would support the mad mullahs and dictators that have killed tens of thousands and despise us. I'll say for the last time I don't support killing anybody on either side but I'm just not comfortable with the generally anti Israeli stance people take in this country regardless of the nature or type of regimes on the other side. Condemning each side isn't good enough for most people. Also saying I can identify more with a democratic state that doesn't hate the west shouldn't be even slightly hard to understand. It doesn't mean I support killing people Jews or Arabs its just a simple statement of facts

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    There's a literal genocide ongoing in Palestine and your response is to repeatedly throw out this "mad mullahs" jibe, and a frankly slightly racist undertone in your posting on the subject.

    There's zero justification for what's going on. It's genocide.
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    I'm a racist now because I condemn killings on both sides but say I identify more with a democratic Israel that doesn't hate the western values I believe in compared to the other side.......
    and im not throwing out the mad mullahs thing for no reason, maybe it annoys you but they are mad and lunatic oppressors of their own people and minorities and woman.
    I dont identify with them at all even a litle bit, if that makes me racist in your eyes so be it.


    I'm done.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 03/10/2024 at 8:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    I'm done.
    Probably for the best, because someone who puts forward Israel as at least being a democracy, whilst failing to connect that the Nazis / Hitler were democratically elected initially is a bit mad Ted.

    That's before mulling the Mullahs madness.

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    Why don't you mull the mullah madness ? Nobody ever seems to. Doesn't suit the wokarati agenda.

    Are you trying to suggest that the fact the Nazis were elected means that democracies are inherently worse then mullahs or dictators whom you seem to prefer. You should ask a few Iranians or Syrians how they feel about their leaders.

    Embarressing
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Embarressing
    Embarrassing spelling maybe.

    & yes this football site populated by middle aged men with a very particular sphere of interest is a known hub of wokarati types. Of course it is.
    Last edited by CraftyToePoke; 03/10/2024 at 7:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Why don't you mull the mullah madness ? Nobody ever seems to. Doesn't suit the wokarati agenda.
    Because the Mad Mullahs aren't relevant in a thread wondering why the State of Israel has murdered more than 40k people in the last 12 months with no more than token condemnation internationally, especially when compared to Russia - who, let's be honest, are killing fewer people in Ukraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post

    Are you trying to suggest that the fact the Nazis were elected means that democracies are inherently worse then mullahs or dictators whom you seem to prefer. You should ask a few Iranians or Syrians how they feel about their leaders.
    Strawman nonsense.

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    The mad mullahs are running hamas and hesbulah or do you think otherwise?
    The Russians have killed far more than 40000 in Ukraine btw but let's not let facts get in yhe way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    Strawman nonsense.
    Lol u started it with your nonsense about yhe Nazis ,I never mentioned them.
    Can I ask you who do you think are more like us the mullahs or the Israelis? I expect no answer or nonsense

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    I mentioned the Nazis. I was curious why you associated with Israel so strongly despite the huge parallels with Nazi Germany. You still haven't really answered that

    The question about "who's more like us" is utterly irrelevant anyway. And btw, the Hasidic Jews - a rapidly increasing demographic with special treatment in Israel - aren't that fond of the gays either

    They're all lunatics. I associate with none of them

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    I don't associate with the nazis at all. Do you associate with the mullahs hamas hessbulah? Where would you rather your daughter or your gay friend grew up? Iran, Syria or Israel. I expect nothing but nonsense and deflection as there is only one answer.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 03/10/2024 at 8:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Lol u started it with your nonsense about yhe Nazis ,I never mentioned them.
    Neither did I FFS.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Can I ask you who do you think are more like us the mullahs or the Israelis?
    It's a bizarre way to evaluate things...'who is more like us'. You've said it more than once on this thread...that you take a side (your words) based on which country/people/system of governance is more like your own.

    To explore that...if the USA were to invade Vietnam tomorrow to remove their one party socialist state structure and replace it with a multi-party democracic structure, would you support that? After all, the USA's preferred solution is more than likely closer to your ideals than the Vietnamese system.

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