Good on you forcing the lurkers to out themselves
I still havent identified Razors Left Peg's handle over there...
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Hey how did I end up getting dragged into this LOLOriginally Posted by SkStu
I still havent identified Razors Left Peg's handle over there...
Its really not that complicated!!!
Update: I’m not sure whether the ceasefire will survive his latest statements.
Today's news is that Trump wants the US to take over the Gaza Strip in full. Bordering countries can take in the Palestinians. There's some lovely real estate apparently - a real redevelopment opportunity. For Trump's property developer son-in-law of course.
mark12345's offence at the comparisons between Trump and Hitler seem a little bit less valid today. He's just helping those poor misunderstood Israelis get some Lebensaum after all - and making some cash while at it. What's wrong with that?
Trump and Netanyahu are nothing short of nazis.
It's almost as if half the world saw this coming from a mile out. Trump is no better than any other warmongering criminal, he just waited for someone else to do the majority of the dirty work before he stepped in to finish it off.
It's utterly disgusting and everyone just sits back and watches it happen
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Not saying that any of what the, Israelis / America / Trump, are doing saying re; Gaza is right ~ ~ But the stupidity of Hamas opened the doors for them !
I think you're getting uncomfortably close to saying "I don't agree with rape, but her stupidity in wearing a mini-skirt opened the doors for it"
Now granted what Hamas committed in October 2023 was murder and a fairly nasty crime, whereas wearing a mini-skirt isn't (although Hamas might disagree actually) so the analogy does fall down there. But it's still close enough to warrant calling out.
(I also don't think you can say Hamas knew in Oct 2023 that Trump would be re-elected and would have ethnic cleansing on his portfolio)
It matters not whether Donald Trump was elected ~ ~ America does what America does ( especially in foreign affairs matters ) pretty much regardless of who is American President.
The PIRA could have blown up British Air-Liners ~ ~ Killed hundreds in " Spectaculars " in the UK even in the 26 Counties ~ ~ The PIRA never did this, because they knew they and their cause would be crushed in to oblivion if they had done so.
Hamas for what-ever reasons did not have the intelligence to Not go too far ! ~ ~ I could have told you what would happen to, GAZA / Palestinian Cause, as soon as October 7th happened.
It may Not be very nice to have an understanding of these things, and the way they will play out ~ But reality is reality all the same !
True, but I can't imagine any other President claiming that that Gaza strip will be beautiful beach front property./
Nobody could have predicted what has happened since those attacks.
Look, I know I am (likely) naively trying to see some sort of silver lining here but is there a chance that his thinking here is that he provokes a reaction from the main players in the region to come to the table for once and for all to sort the problem out? He says "I can get Benji in line, what can you do with Hamas/Hezbollah?". If it is what he wants to do, it is obviously high risk of failure (Netanyahu is another psycho and, lets be honest, a million times more reprehensible than Trump). I dont think Trump has any true expansionist objectives - but I think we know that his typical approach to things is to provoke and then look for the deal once he has peoples attention. On the flip side, there is the possibility that he truly does think an occupation of Gaza (and other resource laden sh!tholes like Canada) fits his America First mandate. I don't know that I see it though. It's f*cked up whatever it is.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I am Not in the least bit surprised by what Israel has done in GAZA / To the Palestinians ~ ~ I suggest that Israel were just waiting for the " " opportunity " " !
I have been a student of what went on in the Six Counties for all my life ~ ~ The scale was smaller but it gives you an insight as to the debts either side is willing to go to.
Obviously ~ I have also been a keen observer of what has gone on with the Palestinians and the Israelis ~ ~ The horrors do not surprise me.
He surely went on a solo run there - I doubt he said that to anyone beforehand. Naziyahu even seemed a bit taken aback!
He had said something similar a few weeks ago.
Its really not that complicated!!!
Slight tangent here but I hate it when Hitler comparisons are trotted out in such debates. It's a thought-terminating cliché.
Have you also considered that it's perhaps not a smart thing to expect rationality from people who have lived under such conditions for such a long time?
As remarkable as it sounds, I actually think Trump views (or partially views) the whole thing as real-estate problem.
This is where I'm more inclined to agree with Sean. Whilst you could say that no one could've predicted the extent of the devastation...it was always likely that the response would be something terrible. I watched some of the now infamous footage of the attacks and it was like something out of the Walking Dead.
It’s hard to stomach but his shameless ‘Art of the Deal’ style of politics has probably spurred this on -
Arab leaders approve $53bn alternative to Trump's Gaza plan https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd32xyjg4eo
Last edited by The Fly; 04/03/2025 at 10:18 PM.
Interesting.
I still havent identified Razors Left Peg's handle over there...If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?
Go Coillte Mach rachad / ní stopfaidh me choíche /
Go seasfaidh mé síos / i lár Chondae Mhaigh Eo.
Ya what now?
Its really not that complicated!!!
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