Irish Footballs Biggest Clich�s

**carrickharp** · 30/08/2005, 10:59 AM

Harps Hit Dull Note.
The Star today re last nights cup match

**Supersaint3** · 30/08/2005, 11:19 AM

Gerry McDermott calls rovers 'cup specialists' in todays indo.... I reckon he must read on here...

**The Stars** · 30/08/2005, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Supersaint3

Gerry McDermott calls rovers 'cup specialists' in todays indo.... I reckon he must read on here...

If anyone was watching the cup draw yesterday,someone said 'cup specialists' about shams aswell.

**patsh** · 30/08/2005, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Stars

If anyone was watching the cup draw yesterday,someone said 'cup specialists' about shams aswell.

Well Rovers being called "cup specialists" might be a clich�, but there is a certain amount of truth in it.
But the way the big pub adopt a clich� like "the big club" for themselves must be the funniest/stupidest/and saddest clich� in Irish football all rolled into one.

**Roverstillidie** · 30/08/2005, 12:31 PM

This cup specalists tag really irritates some of you! It is a cliche, as witnessed by the amount of times its been used in the press recently, but there is something else going on with some posters here.

I dont understand the objection (apart from the cliche value). We have won it 24 times appearing in 31 finals in the 70 odd years of the competition. Thats an impressive statistic by any measure and entitles us to the name. Whats the gripe?

Because Longford are the holders after retaining the thing, and fair play. But they are 22 short of the record.

Is it simple jealousy of our success?

**patsh** · 30/08/2005, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cop on

Ah sure we're all only little tiny clubs compared to the mighty free-scoring Chokers. And don't let us win anything or we're "nasty plucky wee f**ker$".
If you didn't have such a big chip on your shoulder & you weren't so full of begrudgery, you might just realise that without the rest of us you are nothing.

The MOST RIDICULOUS Irish football clich� : Anything with "Longford" and "Football" in the same sentance about a non-GAA/Rugby game.

**bigmac** · 30/08/2005, 3:54 PM

Originally Posted by patsh

The MOST RIDICULOUS Irish football clich� : Anything with "Longford" and "Football" in the same sentance about a non-GAA/Rugby game.

Longford Rugby?

**Anto McC** · 30/08/2005, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

That dope Paul Collins from Today FM Sport said that this morning when reading the sports news

in fairness does he not do any research into what he is saying ?

What a f*cking tit,i hate that c*nt,i thought i was the only one,he hasn't a f*cking clue about the EL and yet makes out that he is a big EL fan and that he knows it all

**bigmac** · 30/08/2005, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

This cup specalists tag really irritates some of you! It is a cliche, as witnessed by the amount of times its been used in the press recently, but there is something else going on with some posters here.

I dont understand the objection (apart from the cliche value). We have won it 24 times appearing in 31 finals in the 70 odd years of the competition. Thats an impressive statistic by any measure and entitles us to the name. Whats the gripe?

Because Longford are the holders after retaining the thing, and fair play. But they are 22 short of the record.

Is it simple jealousy of our success?

Would you call Nottingham Forest the European Cup specialists? Rovers have an amazing record in the cup, but over the past number of seasons have not performed as one would expect a cup team to do. At the moment I would have to list Longford as the current "cup specialists" as IMO it denotes a team that performs better in cup games than league form/ ability would suggest. (yes Longford are now going well in league, I know) Cup specialists tend to do well in cups but badly in the league (as a generalisation)

**Schumi** · 30/08/2005, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

Is it simple jealousy of our success?

Don't mean to pick on you in particular but this a huge clich�. Any time a big club is criticised their fans put it down to jealousy. Shels and (recently) Cork are terrible for this in particular.

**carrickharp** · 31/08/2005, 9:45 AM

Celtic fall by Wayside against Bohs - Aertel

**Roverstillidie** · 31/08/2005, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by bigmac

Would you call Nottingham Forest the European Cup specialists? Rovers have an amazing record in the cup, but over the past number of seasons have not performed as one would expect a cup team to do. At the moment I would have to list Longford as the current "cup specialists" as IMO it denotes a team that performs better in cup games than league form/ ability would suggest. (yes Longford are now going well in league, I know) Cup specialists tend to do well in cups but badly in the league (as a generalisation)

No, I would call Real Madrid the European cup specalists. We obviously disagree about the defenition, i would define it as most successful in any given competition, as obviously do the media!!!

**patsh** · 31/08/2005, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cop on

The truest clich� of them all : Begrudgery, begrudgery, begrudgery. You are the quintessential Irishman and an excellent ambassador of your fine city.

And you are quite obviously the quintessential bogman and a fine specimen of same!
But well done on another season of mid-table mediocrity, a fine performance by the Whinger and his plucky little team again this year...

**wws** · 31/08/2005, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

No, I would call Real Madrid the European cup specalists. We obviously disagree about the defenition, i would define it as most successful in any given competition, as obviously do the media!!!

in plain man's language Shamrock were the fai cup specialists, haven't been in years, and in the words of McBain, THAT IS THE JOKE!

**bigmac** · 31/08/2005, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

No, I would call Real Madrid the European cup specalists. We obviously disagree about the defenition, i would define it as most successful in any given competition, as obviously do the media!!!

Fair enough, I'd define it as the team currently most successful, ie, over the last few years. Would also exclude teams that are regularly challenging for league honours. e.g. I wouldn't call Arsenal cup specialists though they've been in most of the finals of recent years.
Agree to disagree as they say