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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Stubbs gone to Rotherham. He won't be winning any cup there that's for sure.
    So he fails to get Hibs promoted twice and yet manages to get a English Championship job, I just don't see the logic.

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    The bar was set pretty high by Hearts and Rangers each season for that one automatic spot to be fair, they had no real entitlement to expect to outperform either of those. I suppose they had the playoffs after that but they're always a bit of a lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    The bar was set pretty high by Hearts and Rangers each season for that one automatic spot to be fair, they had no real entitlement to expect to outperform either of those. I suppose they had the playoffs after that but they're always a bit of a lottery.
    But it is the Scottish 2nd level, you expect teams like Hearts & Rangers to do what they did, Hibernian should have been closer regardless. The fact they won the Scottish Cup would be strong evidence that they under performed in the league.

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    Lennon back in Scotland as Hibs' boss http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36477421
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    Perhaps this should all be moved to the Scottish Championship thread? :P
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    Tottenham's (a) quite similar to Dundalk (h) jersey.

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    I see Lennon has managed to get himself a 5 match ban from UEFA for arguing with a linesman over a disallowed goal. He really needs to go to anger management classes. These sort of things happen all the time and if he can't bite his lip (within reason) and get on with it, he shouldn't be in management. The linesman isn't going to change his mind for an offside.
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    I read in the papers that the English League is considering a 5th division to which the Old Firm may be invited to participate in if the clubs agree.

    Apparently the Atlantic League is also back on the agenda for UEFA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    So he fails to get Hibs promoted twice and yet manages to get a English Championship job, I just don't see the logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    But it is the Scottish 2nd level, you expect teams like Hearts & Rangers to do what they did, Hibernian should have been closer regardless. The fact they won the Scottish Cup would be strong evidence that they under performed in the league.
    I think I may have been right!
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    He should have stayed at Hibs. They could drop as many points as they like this season and probably still win the league, such is the lack of competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    He should have stayed at Hibs. They could drop as many points as they like this season and probably still win the league, such is the lack of competition.
    The Championship is regarded as a stepping stone to the holy grail of the EPL unlike the Scottish 1st Division so he took a chance and alas for him it didn't work out. Pity, as I like him and having successfully fought off cancer I suspect he'll bounce back from this as well.
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    So Celtic won their 100th major trophy yesterday. It got me thinking about how Rangers compare and it turns out they achieved that feat all the way back in 2000 and are now on 115 major trophies (not including their lower tier wins over the past few years). Still, I suppose Celtic have won the European Cup so that easily makes up for the shortfall.

    Celtic Rangers
    League Championships 47 54
    Scottish Cup 36 33
    League Cup 16 27
    European Cup 1 -
    European Cup Winners Cup - 1
    Total 100 115

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    Very close all the same. Celtic have closed the gap in the League Championships over the past few seasons. An interesting stat would be how often the league has been won by a non-old firm side (bearing in mind there are over 100 wins between them). The only ones I remember are Aberdeen and Dundee United and that's not today or yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    An interesting stat would be how often the league has been won by a non-old firm side
    The answer to that appears to be 19, with the most recent being Alex Ferguson's Aberdeen side 31 years ago (1984-85). That was the third season in a row where a team outside of the Old Firm won the Championship, the longest ever sequence!


    Aberdeen 4 1954-55, 1979-80, 1983-84, 1984-85
    Hearts 4 1894-95, 1896-97, 1957-58, 1959-60
    Hibs 4 1902-03, 1947-48, 1950-51, 1951-52
    Dumbarton 2 1890-91, 1891-92
    Motherwell 1 1931-32
    Kilmarnock 1 1964-65
    Dundee 1 1961-62
    Dundee Utd 1 1982-83
    Third Lanark 1 1903-04
    Total 19


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    OMG! Third Lanark. Do you know I remember when they were in existence. How frightening (for me) is that? Only 19 yet they all live (other than Third Lanark) and still hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    The answer to that appears to be 19, with the most recent being Alex Ferguson's Aberdeen side 31 years ago (1984-85).
    Don't forget Hearts should have won the title the following season, but choked on the final day, missing out on goal difference. They were two points clear (two points for a win) and had a goal difference advantage of 4, but lost 2-0 at home while Celtic won 5-0 away.

    Celtic were rubbish for much of the next decade in fairness. Rarely finished in the top two up until the mid 90s.

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    Third Lanark is a fascinating story. I remember looking them up before out of curiosity. The old Hampden Park in which they played still stands as a public park with the terraces all overgrown with trees. As far as I know, they were reformed as a junior team in Scotland and play in non-league there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Don't forget Hearts should have won the title the following season, but choked on the final day, missing out on goal difference. They were two points clear (two points for a win) and had a goal difference advantage of 4, but lost 2-0 at home while Celtic won 5-0 away.

    Celtic were rubbish for much of the next decade in fairness. Rarely finished in the top two up until the mid 90s.
    Under the late Tommy Burns especially ? It's one of those chants that sticks in my head as the Rangers' fans taunted him mercilessly with "Cheer up Tommy Burns. Oh what can it mean... etc". Don't know why it has stuck but it has. Felt for the man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Third Lanark is a fascinating story. I remember looking them up before out of curiosity. The old Hampden Park in which they played still stands as a public park with the terraces all overgrown with trees. As far as I know, they were reformed as a junior team in Scotland and play in non-league there.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathkin_Park

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