Bohs fans dirty tricks

[Krstic]

Still not saying where the contradiction is Kristic.

Btw, your continual inability to frame any criticism of you club in terms outside ghetto sectarianism actually bears out a hell of a lot I have said already. Is it completely impossible to criticise wee Derry without being accused of being an ulster loyalist? Seems to be the case alright.

The retreat to the wee victimhood mode is now, I can see, a Pavlovian response so deeply embedded up their that it will take eons and a greatly widened gene pool to breed out of you.

Your continued attempts to draw me into a political debate with you on a Football forum are tedious.

If you are going to throw some bait, let's make it footy bait

[Krstic]

Mate, you're the one refusing to accept the fact that is is possible for people other than loyalists to criticise Derry. If you don't want to politicise matter then don't fling accusations like that about.

Again you seem to ignore your own previous posts and continue to contradict yourself.

It was your mention of John Hume and the 'Derry persecution' complex that led me to the opinion of you not being who you say you are.

Therefore it's quite clear if you take a look back at yesterdays exchanges, it was in fact you who politicised this little spat.

[dcfcsteve]

Hands up anyone who has ever seen a RUC or PSNI presence in the vicinity of the Brandywell?

You're clearly struggling now BohsFan.....

I have. And if you don't believe me - let me try to use common sense on you.

The entrance to the City Cemetry is literally opposite the Brandywell Stadium. In fact - it's about 10 feet from where the alleged incident you report from years ago reportedly took place.

Now - unless you're as juvenile as your postings suggest you are, you will remember reports on the news of some very high profile funerals taking place in the City Cemetry over the years. In particular - Patsy O'Hara and Michael Devine - 2 Hunger Strikers from Derry. They are both buried in the City cemetry in Derry. See where I'm going yet....?

Now - there is a very large Republican plot within the City Cemetry. Meaning large numbers of IRA and INLA men and women are buried there. Each of those funerals was, surprise, surprise - policed ! Some in absolutely HUGE numbers. I recall very clearly standing in the grounds of my school (St Columbs College), that overlooks both the Brandywell and the City Cemetry, in the mid 1980's to watch the goings on at some very high profile funerals, and literally counting the rows of Landrovers in units of 10 - there were that many of them !!

Looking more recently - and again trying to focus on high profile events you will struggle to claim never happened - one of the few Republican prisoners still in jail at the moment is a guy from the Brandywell called 'Seamus Doherty'. Two homes belonging to relatives of him, weer raided not so long ago in very high profile policing incidents. Google it if you don't believe me...

Finally - to try and prove to you that the RUC/PSNI don't just turn up in the Brandywell for the 'big events' before disappearing for months, in some dastardly conspiracy to prevent away Eircom League fans from ever sighting them, I found the following extract from Republican News (not a read I'd recommend, by the way) on Google from 1998. It clearly documents the fact that the RUC were in the Brandywell frequently at that time :

"The RUC in the Brandywell area of Derry have been harassing children as young as five years old on a nightly basis and shining searchlights into Nationalists homes on the estate.
Peter Anderson, the local SF councillor, has received numerous complaints from parents.
``Unsurprisingly there has been a reaction from the Nationalist community to this RUC aggression,'' said the councillor, referring to the fact that police patrols have come under attack from stone-throwers in the area, ``and some damage has been caused to local buildings and cars. It is quite clear that the RUC is directly responsible for creating this disorder and this force should stay out of the Brandywell and, indeed, any area where it is clear that they are not welcome.''

So even if you'll ignore the word of people like myself who have been in the Brandywell more than the once or twice in their life tht you have (even though that doubtless makes you an expert on the local area...), perhaps you'll accept either footage you would have seen on the news (if you're old enough to recall, or intelligent enough to watch the news), articles from the web, or merely just common sense that Republican funerals in Derry have been heavily policed...? Or are you a bit of a 'flat earthist' and refuse to accept the truth when it's staring you in the face ?

Any other straws you'd like help clutching at there BohsFan ? I'm literally shuffling to the edge of my seat as I type....

[pete]

Stick to the topic folks. Antics of Derry City & Shelbourne can be discussed on other threads that alreay exist!

[dcfcsteve]

Kristic, well let me put it like this, you mislead yourself.

Anyway, it seems that the mods around here are being as diligent in protecting the wee Derry faithful from a dose of reality as John Hume is at protecting you from financial reality as I have received a pre-banning warning from them. My reply to them is the same as I would make to you:

"...............let me be perfectly frank, I couldn't give a flying **** whether you ban me or not, if the alternative to being banned is that I have to accept being called a liar, a loyalist etc. It seems to be perfectly acceptable to engage in political baiting, sectarian smears and personal attacks so long as you are from Derry. Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining about any of this, I can give it so I better be prepared to take it.
This site tends to get ignored by a lot of EL fans precisely because of such perceived bias.
Good luck with your decision, I won't be unduly bothered one way or another."


So now, with their blessing you can return to congratulating yourselves on what great fans you are without the unpleasantness of reminders to the contrary. Lack of security aside perhaps the most emblematic moment of Derry hypocrisy was Jim Roddy lecturing everyone else on the need for financial controls and stiff penalties but not a second before John Hume got him and his sorry ass club out of a very big mess.

As I expect to be banned, all I can say is have a great time telling each other how great Derry are and how wonderful the Derry lads are.

Awwwh BohsFan - don't go ! We've ripped your arguements to shreds - including even the one tiny little straw you were left clutching ("Hands up if you've ever seen the police in the Brandywell vicinity").

I was therefore looking forward to you either ignoring the salient points raised in my last post, or resorting to personal abuse to get round the fact that you have an all-consuming hatred of anything to do with Derry that is making you post like a moron.

Don't ban him moderators - I can almost hear him weasling and squirming red-faced in his chair from where I'm based in London. This site needs its village idiots to provide quality humour for everyone else to laugh at. BohsFan is the online equivalent of someone who trips up outside a busy pub in full view of lots of people, and then gets all angry with everyone for laughing at his misfortune. You can't ban comedy gems like that !

PS Pete - responses to allegations from a Bohs Fan about the alleged behaviour of Derry fans within a thread regarding Bohs Fans is perfectly on topic !

[pete]

PS Pete - responses to allegations from a Bohs Fan about the alleged behaviour of Derry fans within a thread regarding Bohs Fans is perfectly on topic !

I disagree. BohsFan allegation was off topic originally. Derry City fans been debated elsewhere.

BohsFan has been warned as he has been repeating the same post in 5 pages of threads. This is supposed to be discussion forum & not public forum for attacking other people. No Derry City fans have been warned as have at least tried to debate.

[Krstic]

Mate, you're the one refusing to accept the fact that is is possible for people other than loyalists to criticise Derry. If you don't want to politicise matter then don't fling accusations like that about.

I know I should just let it go now that Steve has nailed you to your cross, but Can I make one more little comment.

I worked in Dublin for 2 years and never did i hear a Dub call me 'Mate'

I worked in Belfast for 3 years and every Belfast man started their sentence with 'Mate'.

So where do you really come from Mate????