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    Congrats to watergrasshill on securing the division 1 title and a double for the season. Nice to see a club that hung in there when it would have been easy to fold getting their rewards.

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    Interesting most of the trophies won this season across the AUL have come from clubs with an underage set up.
    It’s 10 out 13 or 77% great to see clubs own hard work coming through at adult level.

    Another interesting fact is that 9 out of 13 trophies have been won by county based teams 69%
    4 by city based teams 31%

    But in reality it’s 8 out of 11 73%
    And 3 out of 11 27%

    As the County and City Cups aren’t played by all teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AULBUSTER View Post
    Jamie is the only one from the Cow that’s good enough. Especially with the playes after bringing in .
    Rest of that cow team are bang average
    That is absolute rubbish, Jamie isn’t AUL standard, he’s MsL/intermediate standard at least, Keegan, O Reilly, Hennessy, and Ian McCarthy are all good enough players to get a game with any team in the AUL premier, as their victories in the FAI and MJ cups attest to, let alone village, it’s not La Liga at all, the premier is a poor as it’s been in years, and village didn’t even finish top half last time out. Village or a club close to home I hope they go on to win a lot this year, but some of the talk on here will really turn fellas against them, it’ll be like castleview this season or John Corcoran, there’s other teams and players in the league

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    FairPlay to Hill winning double but my god wouldn’t be going mad personally think they took easy way out refusing to go premier u can bet your bottom dollar their gaffer thought it was easy treble to me personally not doing treble is fail even grangevale would of done treble if they were in that league shocking

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    Thats great news, good to see underage structure coming through junior level again and not just senior. Many clubs are interested in just feeding the senior teams and that's how players drop off and stop playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fruice View Post
    Interesting most of the trophies won this season across the AUL have come from clubs with an underage set up.
    It’s 10 out 13 or 77% great to see clubs own hard work coming through at adult level.

    Another interesting fact is that 9 out of 13 trophies have been won by county based teams 69%
    4 by city based teams 31%

    But in reality it’s 8 out of 11 73%
    And 3 out of 11 27%

    As the County and City Cups aren’t played by all teams.
    Great post Fruice. Love to see some stats like that on here instead of all of our silly opinions for a change. There’s definitely a lot to be said for putting effort into an underage setup with a long term plan for adult ball. Interesting alright with the country teams being successful this season when a lot of talk is that soccer is dying a death in the countryside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    90% of that Village team are bang average, they have some really poor players in that squad .The Cow front three and back line are better than what Village have. Goalkeeping situation is probably around the same. We get it you're a AUL man and don't like Doolans bang average Cow. You ignore most of my message but will reply to the Cow bits.
    If Village played the Cow tomorrow Village would beat them easily. Cow are in a novice league. Can’t compare. Villages back four are far better fitter and younger .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AULBUSTER View Post
    If Village played the Cow tomorrow Village would beat them easily. Cow are in a novice league. Can’t compare. Villages back four are far better fitter and younger .
    Craig Keegan is a better defender than any of the village back four, including Gurta, both gurtas in fact now that the brother has signed. You’d know if you watched him play and not judging him off the fact he plays cbl. Realistically Gurta is the only one who gets into the cow back four, they’re folding in any case so time will tell and if they decide to go to village we will have our answer

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    Murphy, Hennessey and Cotter would all be assets to Premier sides from Cow. Rest if them, not so much anymore. Keeper Scanlon decent too. There's all levels to it and MSL would look down terribly on AUL too. Considering you look down on Cow.

    Good going underage by Watergrasshil and Coachford. Any club that can, should go MSL. Imagine AUL in 10 years when an 8 year old now is 18. What will be left of it?

    You can see across soccer in Cork that it's the underage clubs are thriving. And it's the southside clubs have invested in coaching and facilities who are thriving. 10-15 years ago Castleview, Leeds & Mayfield were the top dogs underage with kids out playing more too. Now kids play more in coached settings and likes of Carrigaline, Corinthians, Hall, Ringmahon, etc. are flying. They're big clubs with big effort in the past bearing fruit for their communities today and to the future. Its not just facilities, its coaching.They are some machines.

    Grattan, Village, Glenthorn and any other one team clubs will rely on their neighbours to produce teams for them and those neighbours are falling behind rest of county. So, a decline in standards will continue and continue.

    FAI Pathway plan will then have more challenges for everyone and rural sides with GAA in particular.

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    FAI pathway is another interesting discussion some leagues such as mayo are summer soccer and they think it has worked well.

    With that being said the Cork AUL voted against summer soccer at their recent AGM.
    And weren’t the 1st to do so.


    There is an argument for staying and going MSL.

    Im of the opinion that while you are heading to better facilities and standards.

    It might not be for everyone it’s very hard for a lot of clubs to compete with the Machine of clubs that you have mentioned and can actually lead to problems at adult level.

    All the clubs with underage structures in the AUL are competing with MSL Clubs but in the main its against their 2 or 3rd team but you highlight coachford at underage level but they are competing in the lower levels of school boy football competing with 3rd and 4th teams of the big clubs.

    So what business have they making the switch at adult levels.

    A properly functioning AUL should be a fantastic home for these clubs.

    You would hope these clubs will improve their facilities and thus bring up the standards of the clubs in the AUL.
    Last edited by fruice; 18/06/2024 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballwasthere View Post
    Craig Keegan is a better defender than any of the village back four, including Gurta, both gurtas in fact now that the brother has signed. You’d know if you watched him play and not judging him off the fact he plays cbl. Realistically Gurta is the only one who gets into the cow back four, they’re folding in any case so time will tell and if they decide to go to village we will have our answer
    Gorta was on the Cork AUL team at 19 . Keegan would never get near a team like that . I played with Keegan and both gortas. The young center half for village will make a fine player too better then Keegan . If the cow had any balls they would have moved to the AUL ages ago . They would have one div 3 and 2 . Nothing after that .

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