Cork v Shels

100% Professional performance by City.

Games like these will never be end to end but i thought enough passing football by City when they could.

I'm all the more surprised City won when O'Flynn, Fenn & O'Donovan didn't get into the game at all.

I was calling for it but good decision by Rico to bring Colin O'Brien on for O'Donovan near the end.

Osam was predictable again on tv3 - what do City have to do get some respect from him? Osam just syas the same thing every week. Scully was a lot more enthuasistic again.

Originally Posted by Cop on

Selfish, self-interested ........................................ You ever been to a delegates meeting in Merrion Square ??

You got seeded this year because of the UEFA coefficient, you should have been playing in the second round of the competition like we are. That's worth money to YOUR club and there are long term benefits for YOUR club.

The UEFA coefficent is important, and it's narrow minded to suggest otherwise.

I'm a CCFC fan first, but an EL fan second, I always support whatever team gets into Europe, our league as a whole will benefit in the long term with improved european performance and seeding will help us achieve that. If that makes me selfish, fine.

I could as easily suggest that a Longford fan is bound to play down the UEFA coefficient given the balls they've made of European competition the last two seasons.....but I wouldn't, because most of your fellow supporters actually 'get' the idea.

Originally Posted by tiktok

An argument only someone who hasn't a clue could make, we'll see how interested you are in the coefficients next year when UEFA are sorting out Derry's seeding and you're looking for the best draw possible.

Narrow minded rubbish

Shels are out of the Cup so the only way they can qualify for Europe proper is through the League. The cup winners have to go into the UEFA under UEFA's rules AFAIK.

Therefore what do you want me to say? Let them go above Derry for the common good?!?!

And why is it when anyone disagrees with the overemphasis on the coefficient they are automatically assumed not to "get it"? I "get it" fine.

I welcome good performances by EL teams in Europe, but I think the disproportionate focus on here on coefficient is counterproductive (see "Longford should never be allowed back into Europe again" type arguments).

In the medium to long term the coefficient is surely only a proxy for the general standard of the League?

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Originally Posted by pete

Osam was predictable again on tv3 - what do City have to do get some respect from him? Osam just syas the same thing every week. Scully was a lot more enthuasistic again.

He just comes across as childish in the extreme. He had to be forced to say something good about City, and even then wanted to talk about $h€l$.
It is petty and just makes him look even sillier than his wooden attitude already does.

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Shels are out of the Cup so the only way they can qualify for Europe proper is through the League. The cup winners have to go into the UEFA under UEFA's rules AFAIK.

Therefore what do you want me to say? Let them go above Derry for the common good?!?!

The question I asked was what would happen in the case of a Derry -v- CCFC FAI Cup final, would Shels being in third then get them into the UEFA cup.

Jesus, try reading before you respond

I never said they should be there at the expense of Derry, for the record, I think the teams best equipped to play in europe are CCFC, Derry, Shels, Bohs, if someone else gets there, I'll support them in Europe regardless.

You're the one who went off on one........ "co-efficients my ar5e".
That kind of statement makes me think you don't 'get it'.

'than say Longford or Drogheda (sorry Drogs fans, Doolin simply isn't up to it),'

No need to apologise, I reckon you'd get a good few drogs supporters that would agree with that comment

Originally Posted by tiktok

The question I asked was what would happen in the case of a Derry -v- CCFC FAI Cup final, would Shels being in third then get them into the UEFA cup.

In that scenario 3rd place in the league gets Uefa Cup. You;d get long odds on that though as means both team have to win their Cup games & avoid each other in quarter & semi final draws.

Hopefully (if) the FAI take over the day to day running of the league these issues regarding clubs playing in Europe can be sorted out once and for all by a independent third party.

Im a shelbourne support and obviously a EL supporter too. Ill be cheering on CCFC when the play Djurgardens at the Cross because its good for the league to see clubs doing well in Europe.

The league will rise, the general public will be more intrested in it and hopefully things like attendences and stadia will improve etc etc.

As for Shels in Europe next season, its up to Shels to make second position, if its a Cork Derry final in the cup then Shels would make it through to the UEFA Cup by finishing second AFAIK.

Still finishing third for Shels is not acceptable, something must be seriously wrong at the club if we cant finish second with all the players bought.

Anyway, well done to Cork. Congratulations, and thanks.
Cross looked great on telly -- brilliant atmostphere and crowds.

Originally Posted by pete

Originally Posted by tiktok

The question I asked was what would happen in the case of a Derry -v- CCFC FAI Cup final, would Shels being in third then get them into the UEFA cup.

In that scenario 3rd place in the league gets Uefa Cup

That's right, yep; fourth goes to InterToto. It's how we got in in 2000!

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Anyway, well done to Cork. Congratulations, and thanks.
Cross looked great on telly -- brilliant atmostphere and crowds.

For once i was looking for a draw ......We just have to beat Cork now on Friday night !!!!!......Big game Friday....BIG.

Originally Posted by EnDai

No. Doubt it tbh, he's one of the best managers we've ever had. And we're still in contention for runners up, to sack him now would be stupid!

Give me the squad he's been given and I'd win the f*cking league!!!

His tactics are rubbish and the players are indisciplined. It's time for him to go.

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Anyway, well done to Cork. Congratulations, and thanks.
Cross looked great on telly -- brilliant atmostphere and crowds.

After about 20 minutes, did anyone else hear the kid, who must have picked the mic or sumthing up and just say.... P E N I S ?

I was in bits laughing at it

Yeah, heard that! Think they got back near the mic later on, though never to the same effect.

Originally Posted by Roo69

After about 20 minutes, did anyone else hear the kid, who must have picked the mic or sumthing up and just say.... P E N I S ?

I thought I'd misheard that last night
It was priceless

Originally Posted by dortie

We just have to beat Cork now on Friday night.

dcfcsteve has a large cheque written out and will be over on Friday to deliver it personally. Should be enough to buy your at least 5 minutes of injury time.

Originally Posted by Roo69

After about 20 minutes, did anyone else hear the kid, who must have picked the mic or sumthing up and just say.... P E N I S ?

I was in bits laughing at it

Just after Baker was sent off, the cameras clearly picked up a little kid giving him the finger. Delightful stuff!

Originally Posted by Roo69

After about 20 minutes, did anyone else hear the kid, who must have picked the mic or sumthing up and just say.... P E N I S ?

I was in bits laughing at it

It was excellent! They were saying something about Kerr-neeeeh afterwards.

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EIRCOM LEAGUE FIRST DIVISION AUG 15
P W D L F A Pts
Dublin City 23 11 8 4 36 19 41
Sligo Rvrs 23 11 8 4 30 21 41
Cobh Rmbls 22 9 6 7 33 28 33
Limerick 23 9 6 8 30 27 33
Galway Utd 22 8 6 8 28 30 30
Kildare Co 23 8 6 9 22 25 30
Dundalk FC 23 9 3 11 27 31 30
Kilkenny C 23 8 4 11 23 23 28
Monaghan U 22 6 7 9 22 34 25
Athlone T 22 4 6 12 16 29 18
Shelbourne 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Cork City 1 0 0 1 0 1 0

Is someone from Aertel pulling the P*** after Cork winning last night. Look at the first division table

here

don't know what the story is with the aertel table - earlier this sason for about a week they had Waterford Crystal at the foot of the premier