QuoteUnless Everton have a top manager lined up ~ ~ This is madness !Originally Posted by zero
Dyche gone - Coleman and Baines in charge for tonight's cup game at home to L1 peterborough.
Unless Everton have a top manager lined up ~ ~ This is madness !
Surprised at that. He's a dated manager but he'd have kept them up and made sure they went into their new stadium as a Premier League team. With Ipswich playing decent stuff it's not a given that the three promoted teams will all go down again and Everton could be at serious risk now of finally getting relegated after countless near misses over the years.
David Moyes has been touted as a potential successor to Dyche. If so, it may not be good news for O'Brien. Moyes is another coach who likes his centre-backs to be experienced and is slow to throw in younger/inexperienced players at the back.
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Howard Kendall shouldn't have gone back to Everton - almost got them relegated but for Gareth Farrelly - and Moyes should probably stay away as well.
New US owners recently gone in there, often don't really understand football and could go for a big name ex player or something, anything could happen.
Not a fair comparison imo, since Kendall sadly had personal problems which held him back second time round.
Whereas even at 61, Moyes could still hope to do a good job, at the right club at least. (Whether EFC is currently such a club is another question.)
I doubt even the new lot in charge could be stupid enough, but I'd love to see them appoint Rooney, for the comedy value alone!
Maybe time to give Colleen Rooney the managers job ~ ~ She seems to be the brains of the Rooney marriage ! !Not a fair comparison imo, since Kendall sadly had personal problems which held him back second time round.
Whereas even at 61, Moyes could still hope to do a good job, at the right club at least. (Whether EFC is currently such a club is another question.)
I doubt even the new lot in charge could be stupid enough, but I'd love to see them appoint Rooney, for the comedy value alone!
Bizarre timing alright but if I was to pick one manager who wouldn’t necessarily increase Evertons relegation risk compared to Dyche, it’d be Moyes. I’m hearing it’s a short term gig.
On another note great to see a gem like Coleman getting his first managerial role even if it is for one game only. I think he has the drive and people leadership attributes to be successful in football management.
Carsley?
Starts at home to Spurs.
Not sure the position. Tarkowski and Branthwaite start. There's no obvious right wing back so hard to tell whether he's right of a back 3 or right back.
Edit: looks to be right back.
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The main thing is that he's playing. The centre back spot alongside Collins is wide open for someone if him or Omobamidele could get a run of games. It will probably need to be a Championship loan for Omobamidele, so if O'Brien can get a run in the Premier League he'll probably go straight into the team.
Played about 85 minutes and did fine, nothing spectacular but Everton were 3-1 up when he went off. Hopefully he can start to play more regularly - even if he isn't a starter every week he has shown he can play centre back and right back so can hope to get decent minutes for the rest of the season across the defence.
Unspectacular but steady is how I’d describe O’Brien’s performance. Another encouraging development— Ashley Young came on in the second half in a wide midfield/wing position so hopefully O’Brien has a window here to get more game time.
Good that Moyes gave him a game so soon ~ Is this just Moyes second game ?
I think that most people would say that Moyes was a pretty conservative manager, and not too quick to make too many changes ~ ~ It would have been easier / more likely considering Everton's form though !
He also made Everton's defense better than the sum of its parts, last time around. If he likes O'Brien, it's probably a good sign.
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Yeah, sometimes a new manager comes in and basically sees a player or two that he just doesn't fancy ~ So it's good to see Moyes give O'Brien a chance from the start of his reign.
Keane replaced him on 88 minutes in an experienced head, see it out substitution & in the little bit of time he had, he made three errors, he tried to thread a pass which was cut out, then he chased the error to near halfway by the touchline and got spun, Spurs played a one two and were inside the Everton penalty area with Keane scrambling hopelessly. After getting away with that he then lost Richarlison at the back post to make it 3-2 & set up a twitchy ending. So from our point of view that substitution couldn't have gone better.
Dyche likes experienced CBs & we know that but he treated O'Brien almost like a player he hadn't wanted, or that was signed by the club without his blessing. So hopefully he gets a few opportunities & is judged then, on those performances. Michael Keane, in my opinion, is not an immovable object in his path, he's a poor player these days whenever I've seen them.
Last edited by CraftyToePoke; 19/01/2025 at 11:29 PM.
Keane always has mistakes like that in him. Bit of a trademark. I thought Jake would have dislodged him as #3 choice quite early in his Everton career but Dyche likes what he knows. I thought Jake did quite well to be honest. Solid and played some really intelligent balls up to Calvert-Lewin from the RB position which compared well to the service he’d been getting from Young and Patterson in prior games. He also just didn’t do a lot wrong overall.
One thing I’d add is that Spurs were clearly targeting his side in the first half assuming he could be a weak link and they didn’t really expose him. All in all it wasn’t an ideal moment for his full premier league debut, coming in cold after sitting on the sidelines for so long and ultimately out of position — and in that context you’ve got to respect his professionalism because he just seemed steady and ready to go.
Sean Dyche has gone from having a pub renamed after him in Burnley to becoming seen as a kind of outdated Sam Allardyce type dinosaur figure fairly quickly in the last few years, even though he's not actually that old. Top level football has likely moved on from him now, his next job is likely to be down in the Championship.
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