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    Thought Dundalk were the better team and found a way to play through them a few times. They'll be favourites next week.

    Derry match very slow to get going here.

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    Not sure how the commentator came to expect a crowd of seven or eight thousand in a six plus thousand seater ground in the Faroe Islands where they have a total population of 52odd thousand. Good craic but.

    They're starting to play a wee bit now.
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    I'm thinking he meant 7-800 hundred considering their average gate.. I really hope that he didn't mean the 7-8k.. shocking comment if so.

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    Ah its got to be hard enough doing commentary without clowns like me jumping on to everything.

    A quiet game so far.

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    Welsh side Penybont score their first ever European goal, at home to Santa Coloma of Andorra

    Penybont is a great name

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    1 goal in 7 halfs of football from LOI sides,thats fairly grim....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Few comments I can find online suggest Dundalk were the better team but the old Euro failing of sloppy finishing cost them, plus they had to clear off the line too.
    We were fortunate to come away with a 0-0 to be honest. They had at least 3 clear cut chances that should have been finished. We had a couple of good chance ourselves, but certainly not the better of the chances. On another night it could have been a 3-0 defeat, so we'll take the draw and move on to next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    Glens 2-1 down now. Who might the winners of this tie play again?
    Finished 2-2 so that tie very much in the balance. 3 very good away results for the Irish League sides.

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    Again, no panic stations just yet but that's obviously a poor round of results. Lot's of factors mentioned earlier but I'd add another - the league is far more competitive this season. We are possibly just seeing the effects of every fixture being a bit of a battle. Outside of UCD (sorry stu) there isn't really a fixture where we've been able to rest anybody. Injuries are mounting up for every team. When we'd all want to be fresh coming into Europe, we all look a bit banjaxed instead. Sometimes it's the teams with less to play for domestically who end up doing well in Europe because it's a free hit they can give their all in.....this season we've almost every team in the mix for the title....
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    I don't know if that really holds up. You're taking the main selling point of summer soccer - the advantage it gives our Euro teams - and suddenly turning it into a negative. There's even been a mid-season break a few weeks back.

    I think the points Philosophiser looked at earlier - plus the lack of investment in coaching - are more to blame. It was only two bad results then but it's four bad results now. The Gibraltar and Luxembourg teams are in pre-season too - that's supposed to be our big advantage.

    I know you mentioned Crues lost to Bruno's Magpies last year out there, but it was pre-season for them. Dundalk scraping a draw when they're in mid-season is just a bad result to be honest. I think they'll progress still - and whoever gets through may improve like last year - but I don't think you can use the competitiveness of the league as an excuse tbh

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    Dundalk probably shaded first half on chances but second half was very hairy. Maybe it's total arrogance but I still expect them to pump this lot next week. Derry should be going through too. Still think Pats can do it. Rovers goose is cooked though judging by Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    I saw someone post something on Twitter last week that they thought the Irish League clubs would do better than the LOI clubs. I laughed when I read it. Not so funny now. Crusaders drawing 2-2 away in Finland and the Glens winning in Malta.
    Linfield 2 nil up at home against that Albanian team who did their best to lose to Sligo.

    3-0 now. So much for drawbacks of Winter Football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ontheotherhand View Post
    Again, no panic stations just yet but that's obviously a poor round of results. Lot's of factors mentioned earlier but I'd add another - the league is far more competitive this season. We are possibly just seeing the effects of every fixture being a bit of a battle. Outside of UCD (sorry stu) there isn't really a fixture where we've been able to rest anybody. Injuries are mounting up for every team. When we'd all want to be fresh coming into Europe, we all look a bit banjaxed instead. Sometimes it's the teams with less to play for domestically who end up doing well in Europe because it's a free hit they can give their all in.....this season we've almost every team in the mix for the title....
    Such balance in yer analysis is laudable, but the likes of CJ may disown you calling the league competitive on the biggest bestest club in the league, where every side only turns up against the bigest bestest club and why the champions are not yet champions elect.

    I dont fully subscrie to teams being rested and fresh going in to a heavy schedule of games - imo momentum is as important as 'rest. If a side is winning say 3 games in a week scheduling isnt such an issue. Ive seen Dundalk have a break in the past and look really rusty domestically or in Europe but yet the busy schedule we just seemed to go from game to game with and intensity and purpose. We could even thank Cork for keeping us honest and in a winning grove. Ive said it before but I think the European qqulaifiers have lacked that itensity domestically to take them in to Europe on song.

    Im blaming the heat and artificial pitch for Dundalks credible draw away from home, 2nd leg at home to finish the tie off.

    Reading some of Bradley's post matcn platitudes were inciteful yesterday. Taking responsibility for the slow start etc. well thats a common feature of performances in the league and now in Europe. Where was the intensity of play needed in the 1st half, why the upturn 2nd 45 rather than 'giving them too much respect' or what has happened previous years.

    Over to Derry then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    1 goal in 7 halfs of football from LOI sides,thats fairly grim....
    Make that 8 halves!
    God they’d really wanna get their acts together for the second legs. The results, and performances by all accounts, have been pretty terrible all round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I don't know if that really holds up. You're taking the main selling point of summer soccer - the advantage it gives our Euro teams - and suddenly turning it into a negative. There's even been a mid-season break a few weeks back.

    I think the points Philosophiser looked at earlier - plus the lack of investment in coaching - are more to blame. It was only two bad results then but it's four bad results now. The Gibraltar and Luxembourg teams are in pre-season too - that's supposed to be our big advantage.

    I know you mentioned Crues lost to Bruno's Magpies last year out there, but it was pre-season for them. Dundalk scraping a draw when they're in mid-season is just a bad result to be honest. I think they'll progress still - and whoever gets through may improve like last year - but I don't think you can use the competitiveness of the league as an excuse tbh
    Not quite what I'm saying stu - of course summer football is an advantage although not for us this season. We shoould all be in better shape than teams in pre-season but this season is particularly competitive domestically in a way we haven't seen for quite. Every team is having to put out their strongest 11 for every game. Jack has played way more minutes than I'm sure was intended. Mind you some of that is down to recruitment as I said earlier.

    I didn't mention Crusaders result, that was Ger I think?
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    A summary of a disappointing week in Europe:
    Shamrock Rovers' hopes in Europe's premier competition took a major hit as they were contained with relative comfort by Breidablik.
    Mark Doyle salvaged St Patrick's Athletic's European hopes with a crucial late goal, the Saints, who failed to impress their plans on this game.
    Dundalk survived the heat and a number of major scares to claim a scoreless draw.
    The Candy Stripes were disappointing for long periods and never really got going. Their tempo for much of this first leg encounter was slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Such balance in yer analysis is laudable, but the likes of CJ may disown you calling the league competitive on the biggest bestest club in the league, where every side only turns up against the bigest bestest club and why the champions are not yet champions elect.

    I dont fully subscrie to teams being rested and fresh going in to a heavy schedule of games - imo momentum is as important as 'rest. If a side is winning say 3 games in a week scheduling isnt such an issue. Ive seen Dundalk have a break in the past and look really rusty domestically or in Europe but yet the busy schedule we just seemed to go from game to game with and intensity and purpose. We could even thank Cork for keeping us honest and in a winning grove. Ive said it before but I think the European qqulaifiers have lacked that itensity domestically to take them in to Europe on song.

    Im blaming the heat and artificial pitch for Dundalks credible draw away from home, 2nd leg at home to finish the tie off.

    Reading some of Bradley's post matcn platitudes were inciteful yesterday. Taking responsibility for the slow start etc. well thats a common feature of performances in the league and now in Europe. Where was the intensity of play needed in the 1st half, why the upturn 2nd 45 rather than 'giving them too much respect' or what has happened previous years.

    Over to Derry then!
    Well of course I'd still agree with that. Just because you're all putting in a bit more effort against each other doesn't mean we aren't still your collective cup final.
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    Derry pretty dominant 2nd half and should have the beating of that crowd at home you’d think. Still no glossing over 4 poor results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Welsh side Penybont score their first ever European goal, at home to Santa Coloma of Andorra

    Penybont is a great name
    AKA "Bridgend": Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr or just Pen-y-bont, meaning "the end of the bridge on the Ogmore".

    Bridgend is a reasonably big town - 39k - midway between Cardiff and Swansea. The town always had an extremely strong rugby tradition, though the WRU's botched regionalisation policy hurt them badly.

    As for football, I'd never heard of Pen-y-Bont FC. Googling tells me that it is an amalgamation in 2013 of two Bridgend clubs, Bridgend Town and Bryntirion Athletic, so that by moving in to Athletic's ground, the new club could benefit from nearly £1m as a result of Town selling their ground to ASDA:
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ice=responsive

    I'd say that £1m is a lot of money in Cymru League terms, and tbf they probably spent it wisely, seeing as the new club subsequently got promotion and last season finished 3rd in the top flight, hence European qualification. Obviously.

    Mind you, imo a home draw with Andorran opposition isn't much, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I know you mentioned Crues lost to Bruno's Magpies last year out there, but it was pre-season for them.
    Crues lost 2-1 out there, but won the home tie 3-1 a week later - maybe the "warm-up" out in Gib, plus a couple more training sessions in the meantime, helped them turn it round?

    More importantly, with Crues players then being mostly part-time, in the first leg they were without two or three big players who have to take their family holidays in July/August, but (I think) were available for the return. (Meanwhile Crues have recently beefed up their Hybrid model to allow more full-timers.)

    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Dundalk scraping a draw when they're in mid-season is just a bad result to be honest. I think they'll progress still - and whoever gets through may improve like last year - but I don't think you can use the competitiveness of the league as an excuse tbh
    In fairness, I shouldn't have thought the Gib league is too competitive.

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