2023 FAI Cup

[legendz]

I've very clearly said in a previous post that the League Cup should be for ALL clubs in the league (plus a few non-league ones).

If you're asking because it addss more games, then at least it does so for a propoer trophy. And it's just restoring things to the way they were before Covid.

If the league season was extended by two weeks and started on the first weekend of February, 8 First Division clubs could start in the League Cup round 1 on the final weekend of January. Round 2 of the League Cup could be on the new February Bank Holiday Monday, unless it's a Friday 1st of February where the Bank Holiday is on a Friday.
The League Cup can then have quarter-finals in March, semi-finals in April and final in May.

[bohsmug]

If it returns then yeah, I agree. It could work as a first half of the season competition. That said, I've no real appetite for it myself. If Bohs won it I'd enjoy it but not so sure it would feel like we're back winning silverware. Maybe I'd feel different if it actually happened.

Final in Tallaght in early summer, I could see how it could potentially work but has to be made feel important somehow.

[Buckett]

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/11761457...-damage-aviva/

€32k for winning the Cup, basically the same amount that our absentee landlord was over-paid by

[Mr A]

Cup prize money was realigned to allocate more to round by round, while the finalists now get a 1/3 share of profits from the final so overall that's a good thing I think, albeit obviously higher prize money would be better

[2 Year Contract]

Would be interesting to see the final figure on gate receipts. Being conservative it’s probably over 200k for each club for this years final which is more than winning the league gets you (not including UEFA prize money of course)

[outspoken]

Would be interesting to see the final figure on gate receipts. Being conservative it’s probably over 200k for each club for this years final which is more than winning the league gets you (not including UEFA prize money of course)

Not after today's story: https://twitter.com/OCowzer/status/1..._FQfoIewQ&s=19

[2 Year Contract]

Not after today's story: https://twitter.com/OCowzer/status/1..._FQfoIewQ&s=19

Yes I’m aware €46k has been taken off the gate receipt but the article says the gate receipt is still being split in 3 (a third for each club and a third for the FAI).

48k tickets were sold. Obviously without knowing the breakdown of kids to adults tickets, I’ve gone with an average of €15 per ticket multiplied by 48k = €720k, minus €46k = €674k, divided by 3 = €224,666 per club as an estimate

[patsdad]

Yes I’m aware €46k has been taken off the gate receipt but the article says the gate receipt is still being split in 3 (a third for each club and a third for the FAI).

48k tickets were sold. Obviously without knowing the breakdown of kids to adults tickets, I’ve gone with an average of €15 per ticket multiplied by 48k = €720k, minus €46k = €674k, divided by 3 = €224,666 per club as an estimate

I think it's a third of the profit, not the gate receipts. I read somewhere before that it takes about 30k tickets to cover using the Aviva so you'd possibly by looking at the value of 6k tickets for each club. Still a sizable amount.

[2 Year Contract]

I think it's a third of the profit, not the gate receipts. I read somewhere before that it takes about 30k tickets to cover using the Aviva so you'd possibly by looking at the value of 6k tickets for each club. Still a sizable amount.

Just basing it off the article stating the gate receipt was split in 3, rather than the profits split in 3

And that figure was taken out of the gate receipts, which were split three ways between the FAI and two clubs, effectively reducing all threes takings by €15,333.

[EatYerGreens]

I read somewhere before that it takes about 30k tickets to cover using the Aviva so you'd possibly by looking at the value of 6k tickets for each club. Still a sizable amount.

That sounds suspiciously like the persistent tale that Croke Park needed 30,000+ attendance/tickets to cover its costs. Which the GAA then came out publicly and said wasn't true. If it's not true for a much bigger stadium like that, I can't see how it would be for Lansdowne? It would surely be a silly situation if a stadium could only pay its way when it was two-thirds full.

[EatYerGreens]

Yes I’m aware €46k has been taken off the gate receipt but the article says the gate receipt is still being split in 3 (a third for each club and a third for the FAI).

48k tickets were sold. Obviously without knowing the breakdown of kids to adults tickets, I’ve gone with an average of €15 per ticket multiplied by 48k = €720k, minus €46k = €674k, divided by 3 = €224,666 per club as an estimate

I think you'd have to go with higher than a €15 average ticket, to account for the thousands of Premium seats as well.

[2 Year Contract]

I think you'd have to go with higher than a €15 average ticket, to account for the thousands of Premium seats as well.

That's true, good point. As I said I’ve no breakdown to base it off so decided to be conservative with the figure but it’s safe to say the gate was somewhere in the region of €225–350k per club if the reports of the gate receipt being split in 3 are accurate (I’ve no reason to believe they’re not)

[Mr A]

It is definitely by profit not by gate receipts.

[2 Year Contract]

It is definitely by profit not by gate receipts.

If that’s the case then it’s probably in the region of €75k-115k per club

[nigel-harps1954]

If both clubs came away with 30-40k each, that would be the height of it, and would be decent money to be getting.

[oriel]

Yes I’m aware €46k has been taken off the gate receipt but the article says the gate receipt is still being split in 3 (a third for each club and a third for the FAI).

48k tickets were sold. Obviously without knowing the breakdown of kids to adults tickets, I’ve gone with an average of €15 per ticket multiplied by 48k = €720k, minus €46k = €674k, divided by 3 = €224,666 per club as an estimate

43,881 was the official attendance, where is the 48k tickets sold coming from as well over 4k hardly bought a ticket and didn't go?

Didn't realise distribution of money changed, used to be 50k for the winners regardless of the crowd.

Would imagine a lot of other expenses to pay, 100's employed on the day not to mention standard costs, so wouldn't think anywhere close to 200k per club is right, if they got 100k would be doing very well, but Pats have to be getting more for winning it obviously.

[2 Year Contract]

43,881 was the official attendance, where is the 48k tickets sold coming from as well over 4k hardly bought a ticket and didn't go?

Didn't realise distribution of money changed, used to be 50k for the winners regardless of the crowd.

Would imagine a lot of other expenses to pay, 100's employed on the day not to mention standard costs, so wouldn't think anywhere close to 200k per club is right, if they got 100k would be doing very well, but Pats have to be getting more for winning it obviously.

There were 4k seats covered by seat kills and the game was announced sold out, which is where the 48k tickets sold figure comes from. It was widely reported in the media that 48k were sold

for example: https://www.the42.ie/fai-cup-final-a...20882-Nov2023/

[Jack B]

43,881 was the official attendance, where is the 48k tickets sold coming from as well over 4k hardly bought a ticket and didn't go?

The FAI and both clubs claimed it had completely sold out on the morning of the game. Was mentioned a few times on the broadcast too, so 48k+ was being quoted until the attendance was announced during the game.

[pineapple stu]

There were 4k seats covered by seat kills and the game was announced sold out, which is where the 48k tickets sold figure comes from. It was widely reported in the media that 48k were sold

Isn't capacity 52k though?

I presumed the seat kills brought capacity down to 48k, which was then sold out

[2 Year Contract]

Isn't capacity 52k though?

I presumed the seat kills brought capacity down to 48k, which was then sold out

Yes 48k tickets sold plus 4k seat kills equals 52k. As in, the capacity was reduced to 48k and was sold out, and announced as such