QuoteOver the weekend. Looks like with all the accusations of being hapy with 'mid-table medicrity' maybe other fans have actually convinced themselves it's true.
I was just looking at the premeir division standings on 11 a side and I realised Longford are 4th! When the **** did that happen
Over the weekend. Looks like with all the accusations of being hapy with 'mid-table medicrity' maybe other fans have actually convinced themselves it's true.
"I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.
Yeh and maybe your fans are eating there words about sacking mathewsOriginally Posted by fosterdollar
I don't think there were that many calling for his head.
"I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.
Longford are a decent side and deserve where they are at the moment. Can't stand other supporters crying over them playing very cautiously at times - thats part of football and if thats the way they have to play to get results in particular games so be in.
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Well after the game in europe there were quite a few
Agreed, I just wish their own manager realised it....
Well i think there an ok side but I dont think there starting 11 is a top 5 side so then what else got them there? there manager maybe?Agreed, I just wish their own manager realised it....
The season isn't over yet, talking about managers 'getting them into fourth' is a bit pre mature.
What more can they achieve than remaining in both cups and being 4th? Yes they could have progressed one more round in Europe but that was a freak result.Agreed, I just wish their own manager realised it....
Agree....its great to be in 4th and I'm delighted with it but job now is to keep getting points and maintaining top half table status.....
And possibly hang onto a cup or too if possible
Last edited by Maz; 09/08/2005 at 1:37 PM.
Ever get the feelin' you have been cheated?
But they are in fourth and we are well into the season! I dont think they will finish there at all but you have to give them and the manager credit for getting them there even if the season hasn't finished
I'll give credit based on where they finish espically keeping in mind Bohs are one point behind them with a game in hand.
Farrelly is out for two months and their form has taken a little dent as of late. I'm not so sure Bohs have the depth of squad to pull themselves up for the end of the season.
Our domestic form has been very good lately. One loss in 17 league and cup games, would be hoping to finish fourth or fifth and I think we will if we add a few goals. Second tightest defence at the moment.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
This is the way i see what is going on in the club at the moment with regard to ambition or long term strategy, or whatever you want to call it, of the senior team.
Since promotion to the Premier in 2000 we have been aiming to achieve and maintain status as a solid premier-class team which, when the right time comes, will be fully capable of setting out each season with winning multiple trophies as its season goal.
The trophies within easiest grasp of a club of newly promoted LTFC's stature are the cups. They require an ability to beat any of the league clubs 'on the day' and, of course, a bit of luck. Tactics will usually include a much tighter gameplan, less flamboyant than certain teams playing in the league, where a loss will not mean exit from the competition. Our cup succes over the last few seasons is well documented.
In my opinion, no club with a first team not comparable to those current ones of Cork City or Shelbourne are going to win any league championships. We don't have a first team of that quality. We are forced by virtue of squad strength to often apply those tactics that are better suited to cup ties. If it means maintaining stable postions in the league and another season of exposure to top flight football season after season then surely it will help develop the squad in terms of experience (as long as they are young and as long as they stay with the club).
In our managers since promotion we had Stephen Kenny, Martin Lawlor and now Alan Matthews. Kenny had a team (which included a demon striker in Keith O'Connor) which was an equivalent of a Shels or Cork of the first division. His managerial style suited players who were justifiably confident in their superiority to the opposition. This superiority was lost in the Premier and i think that's why Kenny left for Bohs. His style wasn't what Longford needed any more. Lawlor tried to go for more of the same, being a bit bullheaded along the way and ultimately came up against a brick wall. Matthews, however, seems to appreciate how if we are smart about it we can keep up with the big dogs and reap the longer term benefits of sitting in their wake. Eventually, the move will have to come from Longford and we will have to up a gear and quit the underdog mantra and that needs to come in the near future, imo.
Since 2000, we've maintained a solid enough place in the Premier, no longer overly worrying about keeping out of the relegation zone. We have further developed a fine home for ourselves. We have played in Europe for three seasons. We're making a bit of a balls of that but had our first win this season and I'm sure will learn from drastic errors made. I can see where other fans are annoyed at the style of play often employed. I don't agree with their opinion on it necessarily though. Each team comes to each game with a plan of action. It's up to each team to undermine the other's, not bow down to it. We've been successful in that at least. We've a lot to be content with at the club. Evidence of complacency has shown up on (rare) occasions but that's something all clubc have to deal with. I reckon we are still approaching, in good time, the time where we have depth to be starting each season with multiple trophies, including the league title, in our sights.
"I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.
From 2000 -2003 or so, Longford were the model held up as how to run an Irish club, and rightfully so. Stadium being develloped, young ambitious manager running a decent side on a modest budget.
I wouldnt say the wheels have come off, but it was inevitible the progress would slow, especially on the stadium front. The stewarding situation up there needs to be sorted asap, and some facilities for away fans would be nice too. Longford have to adjust their mentality up a division and make that leap from the mid table comfort zone to challengers. Winning the cups was a vital part of this. The momentum needs to keep going, or they could slip back very hard and fast. Look at Waterford.
Have crowds increased recently, especially since the cup wins?
I know what you are saying, but they have some excelent players and an overall good squad, most of whom can play some decent football.
However, their manager obviously believes in "fear football": so afraid of losing that they will do anything to avoid being beaten.
Why doesn't he try to win games?
Anytime I've seen Longford play under that creep, they are sent out to avoid defeat, not to try to win the game.
Crowds have fallen off a bit as far as i gather.
Another point i meant to make when starting the above post is that i am very glad that we didn't pour stupid/unreasonable amounts of money into either the stadium or even making teh club fulltime. Bad financial management has had a detrimental effect on a few decent NL clubs already.
"I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.
Even if it is crap football they play it makes little differance if it is effective and they get results! So why fix it if its not broken?
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