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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Maybe it was 306 at Bishopsgate!
    At a very maximum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    At a very maximum.
    Can only presume it counts season tickets not shown up? Even the first game between Harps and Longford in Bishopsgate seemed a highly overinflated attendance figure earlier in the season, and you'd wonder what's the benefit in doing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Can only presume it counts season tickets not shown up? Even the first game between Harps and Longford in Bishopsgate seemed a highly overinflated attendance figure earlier in the season, and you'd wonder what's the benefit in doing this?
    Doubt it as we scan tickets these days. No idea how that figure was inputted
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Can only presume it counts season tickets not shown up? Even the first game between Harps and Longford in Bishopsgate seemed a highly overinflated attendance figure earlier in the season, and you'd wonder what's the benefit in doing this?
    Same carry on at Treaty. Mondays crowd v Wexford given as 453, Friday v Cobh there was definitely less than the Wexford game but crowd given as 581, must have been only around 300 being realistic.

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    Anyway, all the weekends 'official' attendances

    Shamrock Rovers v UCD - 5,782
    Cork City v Dundalk - 3,815
    Derry City v Bohemians - 3,274
    Shelbourne v Sligo Rovers - 2,615
    Drogheda United v St Pat's - 1,888

    Waterford v Bray Wanderers - 1,784
    Wexford v Galway United - 616
    Longford Town v Finn Harps - 606
    Treaty United v Cobh Ramblers - 581
    Kerry v Athlone Town - 480

    TOTAL: 21,441
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    Taking us up to the mid-season break: (Missing Bohs v Sligo 2nd June)

    Worth noting, time of the year, everyone except for UCD, have seen a drop in their averages in the Premier Division, while only Bray and Athlone saw any marginal increase in the First Division. To be expected during the summer months.


    PREMIER DIVISION

    Bohs - 4,264 (3,209 {2022};2,878{19}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
    Cork - 4,119 (3,517 FD; 2,505; 4,245; 4,559; 2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD)
    Derry - 3,493 (3,184; 2,049; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
    Drogheda - 1,896 (1,941; 721 FD; ; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
    Dundalk - 2,744 (2,689; 2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
    Pat's - 4,315 (3,489; 1,919; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
    Rovers - 6,028 (5,379; 3,384; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
    Shels - 3,096 (2,913; 1,071 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
    Sligo - 2,899 (2,166; 1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
    UCD - 908 (953; 739; 365 FD; 236 FD; 297 FD; 216 FD; 397; 487; 506; 558; 610)

    FIRST DIVISION

    Athlone - 838 (307; 382; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
    Bray - 798 (482; 773; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
    Cobh - 1,134 (872; 268; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
    Galway - 2,254 (2,081; 780; 746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
    Harps - 1,411 (1,293 PD; 1,154 PD; 708; 1,202 PD; 1,216 PD; 784; 449; 479; 429; 433; 644)
    Kerry - 939 (No previous)
    Longford - 697 (500; 610; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
    Treaty - 708 (695)
    Waterford - 2,118 (1,705; 1,496 PD; 2,329 PD; 1,550; 314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466)
    Wexford - 730 (445; 235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)

    PREMIER AVERAGE: 3,432 (2,687; 2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
    FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 1,156 (1,193; 586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)

    OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,334 (2,051; 1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)


    OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 350,060 (486,365; 393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
    OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 109,828 (178,000; 79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)

    OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 459,888 (664,365; 472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueblood View Post
    Same carry on at Treaty. Mondays crowd v Wexford given as 453, Friday v Cobh there was definitely less than the Wexford game but crowd given as 581, must have been only around 300 being realistic.
    Ah would you stop, take off the tinfoil hat ffs. Crowd would never be down on a Friday from the prior Monday anyway.

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    4,147 for our game against Bohs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shearer View Post
    Ah would you stop, take off the tinfoil hat ffs. Crowd would never be down on a Friday from the prior Monday anyway.
    OK thanks, it was definitely a mirage so.

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    Women's Premier attendance record broken on consecutive weekends, which is an unlikely occurence on paper but two well promoted games with great outreach to local clubs (Rovers) and to their own underage setup (Bohs) in the run up to the WWC was a perfect storm really. I'd say it will fall again before the season is out.

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    Article on attendance stats so far this season vs last season.

    https://leagueofireland.ie/news/atte...vision/id-4925

    Dundalk, Finn Harps and Treaty United the only 3 that have seen a decrease in crowds. Athlone with the biggest increase, an incredible 135%.

    First time I’ve seen figures on the women’s LOI too, shamrock rovers women’s leading with an average of 759, higher than the men’s teams of Wexford, Treaty United and Longford
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Article on attendance stats so far this season vs last season.

    https://leagueofireland.ie/news/atte...vision/id-4925

    Dundalk, Finn Harps and Treaty United the only 3 that have seen a decrease in crowds. Athlone with the biggest increase, an incredible 135%.

    First time I’ve seen figures on the women’s LOI too, shamrock rovers women’s leading with an average of 759, higher than the men’s teams of Wexford, Treaty United and Longford

    Considering the lack of away supporters and the form ,Harps attendances are actually very decent despite the decrease on paper….
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    Another weird one is that two recent UCD games (v Bohs and Rovers) were deemed sell-outs despite having about 600 less at them (combined between the two games) than the equivalent last year. Not sure why that was, but if those two crowds were at the same level of last season we'd be up around 11%, not 4%.

    It's genuinely amazing that 697 is the lowest average of anyone on that list.

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    My annoyance with that list is that I'm going to have to go through FAI Connect one by one of each match and double check their attendance figures with mine. Someone has lied, and I'm not happy. Although, their average for Harps on that link is different to mine, and I know mine is correct as they come from the ticket scanners.
    I can only presume their 1,401 is a misprint compared to my 1,411.
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    I’m surprised the Galway United’s women’s attendances have decreased.

    I haven’t seen figures, or been to a match, but I know some of the Maroon Army lads have been going along this season and with others connected I’d have assumed our crowds would have risen from Galway WFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    Considering the lack of away supporters and the form ,Harps attendances are actually very decent despite the decrease on paper….
    Agree with you there. Of the three clubs to have a decrease, Harps have the most explainable reason for a drop off with the relegation and some arguably worse performances (reportedly) in the FD this year compared to last year in the PD. Even so, for the attendances to only drop by circa 100 amidst all that isn’t too bad all things considered
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    A big factor in the Dublin clubs with lesser extent to UCD, is up top 1k, possibly 1500 away fans are going to the derby games, this is boosting figures at Shels and Pats mostly, and probably Rovers, Bohs are at capacity for most games so are fairly consistent.

    Now Shels and Bohs are still posting decent home crowds, and fair play, but they will still be getting 1k away fans up to 6 times a year with the upturn in LOI interest, especially in the capital.

    Dundalk's may be down a little, but even during SK era and 3 leagues in a row, we only got 4k+ on rare occasions, 3-3.5k big games, but often just below 3k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    A big factor in the Dublin clubs with lesser extent to UCD, is up top 1k, possibly 1500 away fans are going to the derby games, this is boosting figures at Shels and Pats mostly, and probably Rovers, Bohs are at capacity for most games so are fairly consistent.

    Now Shels and Bohs are still posting decent home crowds, and fair play, but they will still be getting 1k away fans up to 6 times a year with the upturn in LOI interest, especially in the capital.

    Dundalk's may be down a little, but even during SK era and 3 leagues in a row, we only got 4k+ on rare occasions, 3-3.5k big games, but often just below 3k.
    Important to remember that Dundalk only contains 35,000 people, and have Drogheda United less than half an hour away in a slightly bigger town. So they do fairly well for crowds, alll considered.

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    The biggest I can recall at a domestic game in Dundalk was last match of 2014, winner takes all (or a draw for Cork), 5,500 crammed in, figs never released due to H+S, Cork City took just under 1k.

    (We got 6k for winning the league in 76 from reading back and domestic record of 12k was v Rovers 1967 shield final)

    Mental to think 22k were at Celtic in 79, 18k v Spurs 81 and 16.5k v Liverpool 82, the Spurs and Liverpool games both had temporary wooden planks probably 5 deep all along the stand side, they moved dugouts to shed side.

    UEFA obv had zero or very little safety standards those days.
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    But the relative size of dundalk is irrelevant to the discussion.
    Why are dundalk the only team getting less fans than last year?
    My own guess on that is that these dundalk fans thought the "kenny era" was the norm for dundalk and not the exception. Considering you had a relatively decent season last year (qualifying for europe) one wonders if something else is the reason for the slight decline in numbers.

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