Boycott Shell - Free the Five !!!

[A face]

Anyone boycotting Shell over the whole episode ??

[Student Mullet]

No. They can walk out of jail any time they want. They're in there for the publicity.

[sligoman]

No. They can walk out of jail any time they want. They're in there for the publicity.

Publicity me arse. They're in it cos they're standing up for what they believe is right

[dahamsta]

I don't use Shell anyway over their exploitation of Nigeria.

[Eire06]

No. They can walk out of jail any time they want. They're in there for the publicity.

They have to apologise to the court to be released from Jail

[Anto McC]

They broke the law,they got punished even if they were protecting their families,if it was some rich guy,most people would say f*ck'em

[monutdfc]

I'm with Dahamsta, haven't been to a Shell garage in years.

[A face]

Anyone want ot let them know what you think .... irish-corporate@shell.com

[anto1208]

Publicity me arse. They're in it cos they're standing up for what they believe is right

hitler also tought he was right .

[pete]

I still buy petrol in Shell when i have to.

Those 5 men are in jail due to contempt of court. If the court lets them free without agreeing not to damage property again then system would collapse.

I don't know enough about the issue to take sides. saw a bit on Prime Time & wasn't conclusive. Why didn't the locals complain when project up for PLanning Permission?

I think the government is just playing politics with though. Was nuts to tell Shell to "unweld" the pipeline. What difference does it make it sitting on the ground unwelded or welded together.

[anto1208]

[QUOTE=pete]

I don't know enough about the issue to take sides. saw a bit on Prime Time & wasn't conclusive. Why didn't the locals complain when project up for PLanning Permission?

QUOTE]

because that would be the right thing to do and these are backwards boggers holding the country back . how many jobs were lost due to these 5 idiots , i stand to be corrected but i remember the contruction company saying something like a few hundred had been stood down .

[monutdfc]

There's government double standards though.
When the IFA were blockading the meat factories there was a high court injunction against them. John O'Donoghue (Justice minister at the time) stood back and did nothing.
When Joe Higgins and Claire Daly were leading the bin protests, O'Donoghue was loud in saying that the rule of law had to be applied.
These were two exactly similar situations in terms of the legal process. Difference is the farmers vote is more important for FF than the bin protesters who are mostly SF/Labour/Workers Party anyway.

I'm not sure if the case of the Rossport 5 is the same in terms of the legal process, it's certainly similar.

Dempsey isn't the brightest button at the cabinet table. Probably knows nothing about Shell in Nigeria. It's far cheaper for Shell to have the processing onshore, so presumably there's more money in it for the government that way, hence the original decision. I'm not an engineer, but a lot of the safety fears seem to be overblown though.

[dahamsta]

Dempsey isn't the brightest button at the cabinet table.

Understatement of the month. Himself and Martin Cullen are rumoured to be the stars of the next Dumb and Dumber movie.

adam

[liam88]

Shell are scum-almost as bad as Total! Executions in Nigeria and now imprisonments in Ireland.

Made this feel free to use it on any website etc.

Also wrote an essay on both Shell and Total for my blog-mabye a bit long to post on here-about 500 words so might put it up later. I make sure no car I am in ever fills up at Totaliterian or Hell petrol stations.
The Rossport 5 are brave men standing up for their rights (and the song is class!)

Boycott Total and Shell!
Free Burma and Free the Rossport 5!

[pete]

I don't see any difference in the oil companies. Surely other companies are in Nigeria & Burma?

I also don't see any difference between untreated gas pipeline & standard Bord Gais version. Ain't going to fun for anyone if either leaks. I would think very inlikely a welded steel pipe would leak.

[anto1208]

[QUOTE=liam88]
The Rossport 5 are brave men standing up for their rights (and the song is class!)
QUOTE]

come off it , they had plenty of time to stand up for there right when this was in planning , they are moron s they deserve to be in jail , just like those free loading bin taxer's

[thecorner]

just read this there

it would be an interesting exercise for a journalist to find out what five criminals got early release to accommodate the five Mayomen. One inmate that they won't get to meet (because he got out a month ago) is good old Ray Burke. And what does he have to do with it? T'was the bold Ray that signed the deal with the oil company on the first place…

[liam88]

Surely other companies are in Nigeria & Burma?

Let's start with Shell in Nigeria. Firstly it was not the point that Shell were in Nigeria in the first place. If Shell had paid fair prices for the oil, fair wages to the Nigerian workers and made sur ethe money was being used constructivly (as they had both the pwoer and the responsibility to) then there would have been no problems. The fact is Shell exploited both the country and it's people. The mistreatment of workers on the pipline was met with criticism from Nigerian human rights groups-of which the two leaders were subsequently hanged by the corrupt government (funded by Shell) in an unfair trial (as agreed by the UN) which Shell had a very heavy hand in by both fabricating evidence and lining the pockets of officials to ensure human rights did not get in the way of making money.

Total in Burma bears similarities and criticism rest on 3 main points. Firstly are the on-the-ground 'direct' issues; Total use slave labour, child laboru and political prisoners int he construction of their pipline (so far 6 court cases have been taken out against them-unfortunatley none of which are likely to suceed). Total also employ the Burmese army (which has both the highest human rights abuses and highest number of child soldiers) to guard the pipeline-in the surrounding area they have been responsible for lootings, beatings and gang rapes of girls as young as 14.
Secondly is the economic issue. Total gives $140 million dollars a year to a regime which spends 50% of it's income on militarey (currently invovled in a genocide against the Karen people-including the use of chemical weapons) and just 2% on health (while children die of malnourishment which is as high as 80% in some areas).
Finally in the huge political influence Total has on the EU. While the USA and Norway have both opted for unilateral sanctions in an attempt to cripple the Burmese regime the EU has not declared such sanctions. This is for the simple reason that a unanimous vote is required to impose sanctions and while nearly every country in the EU votes in favour of sanctions only France votes against for the soul reason of the billions of dollars that they recieve each year from Total and would loose should they vote for sanctions. France has seen every vote discarded despite every other EU country being in favour of sanctions, which they are to afraid to impose by themselves.

[Student Mullet]

We can probably agree Liam that none of that is likely to happen in Mayo.

[Poor Student]

France has seen every vote discarded despite every other EU country being in favour of sanctions, which-with the exception of Norway, they are to afraid to impose by themselves.

Norway isn't a member of the EU.