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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    [Journalists should be asking is it allowable that a school can dismiss a teacher solely because of their religious beliefs? Is it allowable for a principal to demand the staff that they accept transgenderism?” he said.

    “I would say just in relation to the media, because it also points to their scrutiny of the judiciary, just because somebody puts on a wig and a robe, it doesn’t mean all of us should surrender our intelligence.”

    Asked how he passes the time outside the school, Mr Burke conceded that the days are long. “It is a long day. I’m here to work,” he said, before being picked up by his waiting father.
    Comedy gold there, the last line.

    Anyway, he's outside the school again today Indo are covering it but again RTÉ are not last mention on BBC was five days back. I'm UK based, are other Irish media still covering this or is standing there in the cold becoming less appealing ? File with the DPP too re his most recent activity.

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    I think like any outrage-bait there needs to be a constant evolution of the story in order to keep it popping up in headlines. A sad man waiting outside the gates of a school for days on end isn't that. Presumably the family are already planning the next thing to get back in the headlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Presumably the family are already planning the next thing to get back in the headlines.
    Hope the DPP slow pedal the file so, let him stand there in whatever remains of winter racking up debt while the online mob move onto something new to be outraged over.

    Still saying he's turning up to work, no relationship with the reality of his situation at all.

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    He's a loathsome creature. I wonder how long before someone submits a complaint to the Teaching Council. There’s a lot he could have to answer to at a fitness to practice inquiry. It’s unlikely that he’s ever going to teach again, unless it’s in the family’s school, but there are good grounds to have him removed from the register, just in case some other hiring eejit doesn’t do a Google search on the applications.

    Teachers should:
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    People who believe they are doing God's work are very dangerous. Morals go out the window, other people don't matter, it's all about whatever fairytale nonsense they have decided is the will of God. Religion is fine as long people don't take it too seriously.
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    Funny, too, how it's always the Old Testament smitey-slaying God, and not the NT love thy neighbour type...
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    So he's still outside the school with the media circus having moved on, is that about right ? Most recent Google of him was The Times saying US Evangelicals back him but won't pay his fines & the Indo saying he had effectively created his own prison with this crusade & was now just a dude outside a school somewhere, alone. No actual coverage though, no interviews, no quotes, no attention oxygen as far as I can tell.

    Judge due to look at the fine amount on Friday I think so probably a bit of coverage there but brief & not good news for him you'd imagine.

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    I think so.

    I see the Westboro Baptist Church (a fairly hateful extreme Catholic organisation in the US first brought to prominent attention this side of the pond by Louis Theroux) have said while they agree with his stance on transgenderism, they won't pay his fines as he effectively needs to respect the High Court decision to bar him from the school grounds. (Sunday Times this week, though behind a paywall)

    When the WBC are disagreeing with you, you know you're onto a fairly spectacular loser.

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    I’m pretty sure they're a Protestant denomination..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    Judge due to look at the fine amount on Friday I think so probably a bit of coverage there but brief & not good news for him you'd imagine.
    So this hearing originally set for yesterday was put back but he turned up at the court anyway and proceeded to talk over a judge until the judge had to temporarily leave his own court, he was removed by Guards but stood looking through the window in the door thereafter as his sister took up the baton until a female Guard was brought to remove her too.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0210/1355888-enoch-burke/

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    Whole family dragged shouting from the court today when things ( to their surprise, remarkably ) didn't go his way.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/...1-enoch-burke/

    Telling a judge he's " bowing at the altar of transgenderism " as Guards drag you away, is a real bucket list moment surely. I'm sure they'll all laugh about that one before hitting the town for a well earned coke & hooker sesh.

    God bless them.

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    I'm sure he'll fight it all the way to the top, and he'll probably find a way to wangle his way out of it even when that goes against him, but still good to see.

    Enoch Burke ordered to pay school's High Court legal costs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    I'm sure he'll fight it all the way to the top, and he'll probably find a way to wangle his way out of it even when that goes against him, but still good to see.

    Enoch Burke ordered to pay school's High Court legal costs
    Cleverest part of that IMO is the judge making it ok for him to stand outside the school, which is where he finished out the term into summer breakup as I understand it. No mounting fines for that, no crusade, no story, no way back & surely no reason to turn up there when the school recommences lessons.

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    I'm sure he and his nutty family will find a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    Cleverest part of that IMO is the judge making it ok for him to stand outside the school, which is where he finished out the term into summer breakup as I understand it. No mounting fines for that, no crusade, no story, no way back & surely no reason to turn up there when the school recommences lessons.
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    I'm sure he and his nutty family will find a way.
    He's still there and the school now being put through making it an offence for him to stand outside as he is causing whatever bit of chaos he can from the road, they claim they had to lock doors to keep him from entering.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/...ke-high-court/

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    They put him in jail a few days later.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/...0-enoch-burke/

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    Who ever hired that lad in the first place probably not feeling amazing about that decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Who ever hired that lad in the first place probably not feeling amazing about that decision.
    Or being one of the other two on the final three shortlist of candidates

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    After 400+ days of martyrdom his family scrapping with judges routinely, Burke is out for the summer holidays without giving an inch. Under threat of reincarnation if he turns up at the school after the break.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024...2-enoch-burke/

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